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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

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Hi Chris, surly the panny 100-400 would tick most of these boxes, have you dismissed it for some reason ?
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My reasons/prejudices are:
  1. Iíve owned several Panasonic FT & mFT lens, but always been slightly disappointed with the image quality (when used on Olympus bodies). I tried the 100-400 briefly at last yearís Photography Show and it didnít change my experience. Other folkís experience may differ. I also prefer the build quality of the Olympus Pro lenses.
    Having said this, Iím seriously tempted by the Pan Leica 8-18.
  2. The PanLeica 100-400 lens IS wonít work in sync with the Olympus body IS - I think this is important for use at long focal lengths
  3. At focal lengths > 300mm, the Panny 100-400 is slower (than f5.6) which is what you would achieve with a 90-250 f4 + MC-14. Similarly, beyond ~150mm a 90-250 f4 (without MC-14) would be faster than the PanLeica.
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

Chris, thanks for your reply, as mentioned earlier in the thread the compatibility could be improved but it's not too bad as is, I hope you get an opportunity to try one out in the field for a couple of hours as I think you may reassess your opinion, good luck whichever route you take... and back to The op is there a new lense roadmap from Oly doses anyone know?
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

Roll on the EM-5 Mark III. For me at least, there is far too many choices of operation on the successor to the original model and the other additions to the range. Dual cards - nope, 60 frames a second - nope, etc, etc. After a dayís shoot, I invariably find that the only settings that I change are ISO, aperture and white balance.

For street work, I just need outstanding image quality and not too many bells and whistles. It will not happen, feature bloat will continue. Nicely please Olympus?

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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

I really hope that Olympus comes out with a competitor for the Panny 100-400.

At least we'd have a choice as to whether we opt for a Panny version, which does seem to have it's ... er ... little foibles, or go for one actually made for our Olympus cameras
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

They really need to tweak the CAF a bit, it is very good but just not quite consistent enough .


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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

How about simplifying, or even reducing menu options. Hands up all, (apart from the usual suspects), who exploit or understand what is currently presented.
Who knows, KISS could well increase sales.
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

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How about simplifying, or even reducing menu options. Hands up all, (apart from the usual suspects), who exploit or understand what is currently presented.
Who knows, KISS could well increase sales.
I have seen worse, certainly dont think it would increase sales. If they simplified it my muscle memory would have to learn from scratch
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

Simplifying the choice in the E-M10 Mkiii is one of the things that has put me off it and has gained some negative comments on forums.
To be honest once I've set my camera up I mainly use the Super Control Panel and I find that very intuitive.

I do think there is a lot of room for improvement in the menus; a User Interface Designer with Photography experience should be able to make things much more logical without dumbing down the features.
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How about simplifying, or even reducing menu options. Hands up all, (apart from the usual suspects), who exploit or understand what is currently presented.
Who knows, KISS could well increase sales.
With good design you shouldn't need an instruction manual, and why so many buttons??? - software-geeky 'designers' gone mad. Reduce the design to the bare essentials, lens, aperture, shutter, and ISO. Number 1 on my hit list would be that stupid PASM dial, I often think of taking a wrecking bar to it.
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With good design you shouldn't need an instruction manual, and why so many buttons??? - software-geeky 'designers' gone mad. Reduce the design to the bare essentials, lens, aperture, shutter, and ISO. Number 1 on my hit list would be that stupid PASM dial, I often think of taking a wrecking bar to it.
I only partially agree Steve. The PASM dial has always seemed odd to me in that even cheap cameras have one, but they lack a dial for changing aperture/shutter which seems totally wrong in terms of how a camera needs to be used. Twin dials are for me now a mandatory requirement - even on a low end camera. OTOH, the PASM dial when it carries user programmable settings is very useful (as most Olympus cameras now do).

As to other buttons - bring them on. I regularly use buttons for focus (BBF), AF home, bracketing, ISO, drive mode and magnify/peaking (with MF lenses). If you don't need the extra buttons they can always be turned off.
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Re: Whats next for Olympus?

Personally I find there’s enough to do in terms of looking for the thing you wish to photograph, trying to imagine the finished print (preconceiving), deciding where to stand, judging DoF requirements, exposure - that’s the set unless I’m mistaken. That takes a lot of mental effort to wrestle with all those variables, but to think about buttons and knobs etc is just too much.

I have my doubts about the designers, I very much doubt they’re photographers.
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Personally I find thereís enough to do in terms of looking for the thing you wish to photograph, trying to imagine the finished print (preconceiving), deciding where to stand, judging DoF requirements, exposure - thatís the set unless Iím mistaken. That takes a lot of mental effort to wrestle with all those variables, but to think about buttons and knobs etc is just too much.

I have my doubts about the designers, I very much doubt theyíre photographers.
Buttons are there to make it quicker & easier to get to functions etc instead of thinking how to get to those operations otherwise. Box Brownies aren't really the latest seller.
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Only one button is necessary.
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Or no buttons on a pin hole.
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