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Old 29th November 2017
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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75-300 might suit you then; affordable, petite and light, weather-sealed and pretty good IQ. Needs good light as aperture isn't wide, but excellent value.
I bought one when I bought my M5 (which I sold earlier this year) but I've never really liked it. Needs very good light at the long end for fast moving subjects like aeroplanes. I managed with it rather than got on with it. It's also a bit soft at the long end.

You may have seen my results back in September shooting performers on stage (well, photographically speaking!) and it was almost impossible to get even usable results with it.

And no, weather sealed it ain't! Add I said, I'm still mentally debating the old 50-200; but that's very heavy, more so than the 40-150 (I was going to go for one, then spotted the weight, and have been agonizing over it since). When I had my Canon, I had a 100-400 L series; very heavy lens (1.3kg) and I tried using it with a converter, although with an APS-C sensor it gave 560mm equivalent, it often wasn't quite enough for birding. I found a converter not good. To some extent it damaged the performance of the lens (I suspect it detracted from the IS), and made focusing iffy, again unless the light was very good. So for me, converters are a no-no! I think the 40-150 should have been 50-200, updated so that the aperture was constant as with the 40-150. I really think Oly missed a trick there. I'm not going to pay around a grand for a lens that doesn't do what I want, and I bet I'm not the only person to think like that.
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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I bought one when I bought my M5 (which I sold earlier this year) but I've never really liked it. Needs very good light at the long end for fast moving subjects like aeroplanes. I managed with it rather than got on with it. It's also a bit soft at the long end.

You may have seen my results back in September shooting performers on stage (well, photographically speaking!) and it was almost impossible to get even usable results with it.

And no, weather sealed it ain't! Add I said, I'm still mentally debating the old 50-200; but that's very heavy, more so than the 40-150 (I was going to go for one, then spotted the weight, and have been agonizing over it since). When I had my Canon, I had a 100-400 L series; very heavy lens (1.3kg) and I tried using it with a converter, although with an APS-C sensor it gave 560mm equivalent, it often wasn't quite enough for birding. I found a converter not good. To some extent it damaged the performance of the lens (I suspect it detracted from the IS), and made focusing iffy, again unless the light was very good. So for me, converters are a no-no! I think the 40-150 should have been 50-200, updated so that the aperture was constant as with the 40-150. I really think Oly missed a trick there. I'm not going to pay around a grand for a lens that doesn't do what I want, and I bet I'm not the only person to think like that.
The 40-150 Pro is a constant F4, 56-210mm with the MC14 whereas the 50-200 SWD lens is f2.8 at the wide end but f3.5 at 200mm, so on that basis the new combination is still pretty good.
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

I see that the 43rumors website say that the 200mm doesn't focus properly on Olympus bodies, and that they will be releasing firmware updates next year to support this lens.

The E-M1 MkII, E-M5 MkII and Pen-F are scheduled for Feb 2018,
The E-M1, E-M10 MkIII, E-M10 MkII, E-PL-8 and E-PL7 are scheduled for Spring 2018,
Older cameras are scheduled for later updates during 2018.

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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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The 40-150 Pro is a constant F4, 56-210mm with the MC14 whereas the 50-200 SWD lens is f2.8 at the wide end but f3.5 at 200mm, so on that basis the new combination is still pretty good.
I've recently sold my 50-200 non SWD and picked up a 40-150 plus EC. The new lens with TC is s little lighter than the 50-200 and the focus is certainly quicker and more sure footed than the 50-200, but the IQ is pretty much the same. The old 50-200 isn't a bad lens at all.
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

Don't have any positive experience with Panasonic, if the 200mm Lens works on an Olympus body, maybe could give it a chance.
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

I see the G9 is currently in stock at WEX and SRS. Has anyone here bought one or is going to buy one? Not for me, as my camera buying days are over, but I will be interested to see how it compares with the E-M1 II.

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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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I see the G9 is currently in stock at WEX and SRS. Has anyone here bought one or is going to buy one? Not for me, as my camera buying days are over, but I will be interested to see how it compares with the E-M1 II.

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I won't be buying. I've tried Panasonic cameras in the past, but they just don't gel with me. On top of that, the G9 is huge in comparison even to the E-M1ii. In any case (based on what I've read) about the only areas where it obviously outperforms the E-M1ii is the size of the EVF and having a top LCD panel. The bigger EVF would be nice but I have no interest in the top LCD.
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

Interesting DPreview review of the G9 AF - although they like the AF for most uses they go on to say:

"Unfortunately, when shooting complex high speed sports, the shortcomings of DFD compared to phase detect AF become apparent. DFD leads to an 'AF flutter' that can be distracting, and in terms of hit rate, it is less reliable. We also found that when shooting bursts, the EVF resolution drops, making it difficult to tell what the camera is focusing on, which is distracting."

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-g9
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

My first foray into M43 was Panasonic - a Lumix G2. Nice and small, light; but had some silly shortcomings that could have been easily rectified in software. No IS, of course, then. In much more recent times, I've looked at Panasonic again, and generally felt that they've increasingly lost the plot, if the plot is small and light, nice handling, good value. Rather like car makers these days; make a nice small car, just what many people need and want, and what do they do? Make it bigger and heavier, and loads more bells and whistles. I think much of the problem is that so much now seems to be blurred by the involvement of software designers; products become a software platform that needs some hardware to wrap it up in, rather than a good hardware product that software facilitates and improves. The customer isn't part of either equation - but the software designer inevitably is!
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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

DPReview have really put the cat among the pigeons by giving the G9 a Silver Award, despite it achieving the same overall score as the Gold Award E-M1 Mk2. Some of the Panasonic fans are incandescent with rage.

Taking all the current reviews into account I think the G9 and E-M1 Mk2 are probably on a par, with each camera having minor features for and against. The biggest problem for Olympus is that I can't see anything about it which commands a £300 premium over the Panasonic. I assume the price of E-M1 Mk2 will now be permanently adjusted to match the G9, until that drops in price too.

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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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Taking all the current reviews into account I think the G9 and E-M1 Mk2 are probably on a par, with each camera having minor features for and against. The biggest problem for Olympus is that I can't see anything about it which commands a £300 premium over the Panasonic. I assume the price of E-M1 Mk2 will now be permanently adjusted to match the G9, until that drops in price too.

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Re: Panasonic launch the G9 and 200mm f2.8 lens

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DPReview have really put the cat among the pigeons by giving the G9 a Silver Award, despite it achieving the same overall score as the Gold Award E-M1 Mk2. Some of the Panasonic fans are incandescent with rage.

Taking all the current reviews into account I think the G9 and E-M1 Mk2 are probably on a par, with each camera having minor features for and against. The biggest problem for Olympus is that I can't see anything about it which commands a £300 premium over the Panasonic. I assume the price of E-M1 Mk2 will now be permanently adjusted to match the G9, until that drops in price too.

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I was thinking the same at Christmas, but I got such a good deal on a new E-M1 MkII that I decided to go for it rather than wait for G9 stocks to arrive. In future months, they may well both drop in price... or increase as the sterling/yen exchange rate slides. The other major factor with me was that I've been investing recently in Olympus Pro telephoto lenses which can link their IS to the camera's.

For casual use, I still like my little Lumix GX7 and primes or small zooms, but for serious use I wouldn't want to go any bigger than the E-M1 MkII.
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