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Re: Speccing a laptop

Pardon my ignorance but what is a CUDA core please and why is it important/significant?
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Re: Speccing a laptop

I have bought components from Novatech before but reviews of their laptops suggest they have a cheap build and poor screens, which is shame because the CPU and graphics power is excellent for the money.

The Dell XPS 15 L502X at the Dell Outlet store looks very promising. Excellent performance and build quality but a bit big and bulky. Great price:

http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/S...&puid=e4fdc613

Only question mark - only 2GB SDRAM is listed! But it does have a 256GB SSD.

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PS Contrary to my earlier note, the battery is removable and I think you get two (one 6 cell and one 9 cell). It's the newer XPS 15z, I think, that has a fixed battery.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

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CUDA cores are an nVidia parallel processing technology for video graphic rendering. Adobe requires 96 cores or more and at least 896MB of dedicated video RAM to enable their Mercury Playback Engine for Adobe Premiere CS6 to be accelerated meaningfully. It's not relevant if you aren't interested in video editing.

CUDA was really developed to improve real-time 3D rendering in computer game animation.

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Re: Speccing a laptop

Hmmm... the Dell is very tempting but I am foxed as to why only 2GB DRAM is fitted (verified by an online chat with a Dell sales chap). This is a high-spec. laptop with a 256GB SSD... but only 2GB system memory? Weird!

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Re: Speccing a laptop

Is it upgradeable? I can't access the page you linked to, for some reason, so I can't see the full spec.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

I would avoid Acer & Dell, which are really supermarket quality (sorry to those that own them) & stick with better, reliable brands like Samsung (local guy recommended their latest models), Asus & HP. I bought my daughter a 13.3 inch Asus which is only 19mm thick (not including the battery hump). The right package should suit you nicely (with full memory & Win 7 Pro 64 bit). This is the Asus I got her which was on special for $799 at the time I bought it. I don't know if they make a 3GHz version, but if they do, then that would be even better.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

Ian, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but....

I'm a PC man through and through. Have been since 1989. But a while back I bought a scabby old Macbook, not Pro, but a 13" with 4Gb ram, for a couple of applications which wouldn't play nicely on my PC alongside other apps. I also have a 2 year old Toshiba 17" laptop with Win7. I am ashamed to admit that the Macbook runs rings round the Tosh. Both for performance and quality of display. I can run LR4 quite happily on it. In fact, I'm going to give the laptop away to a friend in exchange for a pile of split logs.

Now, I'm definitely sticking with PC for desktop computing. But I wouldn't buy another Windows lapdog.

So what I'm saying is, at least do yourself a favour and look at a Macbook. You might find you hate it. But look.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

I don't think anyone would dispute the Macbooks are very, very good, but the stumbling block for many is the price....... I'd have one myself, but just can't justify the pricing against equivalent Windows machines.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

Only paid a couple of hundred for mine on Fleabay ... Yes, they are more expensive than PC laptops, but in this case you get what you pays for. I'm certainly no Apple evangelist, but they're worth considering and discounting if need be.
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Re: Speccing a laptop

There are no Apples in my price range that fit my spec., old or new. There are no new Apples, full stop, in my price range! The cheapest Mac laptop on the Apple Store site is a 619 Refurbished MacBook Air 1.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 but the CPU is too slow and there is no dedicated graphics and it only has 2GB DRAM system memory.

The thing about PC laptops is that you can pay as little (and get lower power and build quality accordingly) or as much as you can afford or prefer to pay.

Cheaper Dells are, well, cheap, but the more expensive lines are very nice indeed. The XPS 15z is a stunner but just a little outside of my budget for the spec. I am looking for. I could go refurb for this but still a little over budget. Dell also feature a fantastic display - with RGB white LED (WLED) backlights, which are still relatively rare. Normal LED backlights are slightly yellow as they are blue LEDs moderated by yellow phosphor. RGB LED backlights produce a more pure white and the temperature is adjustable.

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Update - the cheapest MacBook Pro with a 15 inch screen that meets my spec is 2.5x my budget (2.5 x 600 = 1500)
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Re: Speccing a laptop

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Is it upgradeable? I can't access the page you linked to, for some reason, so I can't see the full spec.
XPS L502x
Processor: Intel Core i5-2450M (2.50 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.10 GHz)
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate
2 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz (1 DIMMs)
256 GB Dell Mobility Solid State Hard Drive, 1.7MM
8X DVD +/- RW DRIVE
15.6 in HD WLED TL (1366x768)
Graphics : 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M Graphics card
English Genuine Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate (64Bit OS)
Wireless: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 (2x2 b/g/+ Bluetooth Combo Card)
LCD Back Cover : Silver WLAN
Battery : Primary 9-cell 90W/HR LI-ION
Internal Qwerty Keyboard

Price........ 472.27
Price Incl. VAT and excl. delivery... 566.72

There is a 1920 wide display option, too.

Maximum RAM is 8GB.

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Re: Speccing a laptop

Fair points, but I've found that with equivalent processors, the Macbook runs faster. Down to the way the programs are executed, I think. Also memory is ridiculously cheap, as long as you use Crucial or similar. But no, they don't do dedicated graphics, I don't think.

You can have my Toshiba for a couple of loads of logs, if you want!

EDIT - nice spec on that Dell!
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Fair points, but I've found that with equivalent processors, the Macbook runs faster. Down to the way the programs are executed, I think. Also memory is ridiculously cheap, as long as you use Crucial or similar. But no, they don't do dedicated graphics, I don't think.

You can have my Toshiba for a couple of loads of logs, if you want!

EDIT - nice spec on that Dell!
I don't see any evidence that programs which run on both Windows and Mac OS run any faster or slower given equivalent hardware on either OS.

The very fastest PCs are Windows because there is a wider choice of hardware that you can run Windows on unless you are into hacking Apple OSs to run on non-Apple hardware.

Anyway, this thread is not about Macs vs PCs - Macs are entirely irrelevant to my quest because they don't meet critical aspects of my specifications and, fundamentally, my budget.

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Re: Speccing a laptop

Well, I have ordered my new PC and I beat my budget comfortably.

This is what I ordered from Dell UK's Outlet store - an Inspiron 15R - N5110
  • Inspiron 15R - N5110
  • Processor: Intel Core i7-2670QM (2.20 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.10 GHz)
  • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
  • 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz (1 DIMMs)
  • 750 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
  • 8X DVD+/- RW Drive
  • Display: 15.6in High Definition (720p) LED Display with TrueLife
  • Graphics : 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M Graphics card
  • English Genuine Windows 7 SP1 Home Premium (64Bit OS)
  • Wireless: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (1x2 b/g/n+ Bluetooth Combo Card)
  • LCD Back Cover : Diamond Black Switch Cover [Switchable Lid]
  • 6 Cell Primary Battery, 48W
All this for 439.31, delivered (includes a 15 sale voucher and free shipping worth 22 which is an offer until 27th July).

The hawk-eyed among you will see that there is only 2GB RAM fitted. I'll remove that and replace it with 8GB (around 30) and the spare 2GB will go on eBay - might get 5 for it

I did have a frustrating hurdle to jump before making the order - it's documented in my blog.

I'm really looking forward to receiving my new Dell; it's got a seriously hot 2nd generation quad core i7 Intel CPU - about 7 times faster than my old laptop based on Passmark data. The dedicated graphics GPU is also rated 16x faster than my old system

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Re: Speccing a laptop

Mr.Memory for RAM Ian?


PS. Did you get a chance to look at: http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21762


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