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So... according to Henri Cartier-Bresson "Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst".

Looking Lightroom I realised I now have 10,384 photos, I expect to be improving sometime soon!
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Is that with each camera...is the clock reset when you have a new one?
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I hope not, otherwise I'm never going to improve!
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That's only 277.777 rolls of 36 exposure 35mm film. As I was also shooting medium and large format in the late 70's and 80's I probably passed the 10,000 mark sometime in the mid 80's.
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I think HCB had something there.

I started shooting stock in 2006, and since then Lightroom shows 30,362 images. From the first 10,000 of these 1582 were accepted by the agency. The 10,000 most recent yielded 2342 accepted. (Improvement of 48%)

So to put it another way practice might not make perfect but it should up your game a bit...
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I think HCB had something there.
Definitely, I know I spend more time thinking about composition, lighting, backgrounds etc now than I used to... although the number should probably be increased to account for the ease of taking digital shots.

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I started shooting stock in 2006, and since then Lightroom shows 30,362 images. From the first 10,000 of these 1582 were accepted by the agency. The 10,000 most recent yielded 2342 accepted. (Improvement of 48%)

So to put it another way practice might not make perfect but it should up your game a bit...
Well, I would consider a 15% acceptance rate pretty good anyway, you must be quite pleased with the improvement!
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I think the time taken taking shots is a better measure than the number of shots... Keeping your finger on the button in H mode doesn't help you improve.
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Re: 10,000 Club

Well I didn't realise I had Taken so many, in my 1 terabyte external HD I have 11,384 files mainly all RAW but I have another 1,971 in my pending folders - to sort. These are mainly all keepers, goodness knows how many I have actually taken!

Must slow down!

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I started shooting stock in 2006, and since then Lightroom shows 30,362 images. From the first 10,000 of these 1582 were accepted by the agency. The 10,000 most recent yielded 2342 accepted.
Every time I read about the subject it seems the acceptance criteria get more difficult each year, so to increase your rate as time marches on is something to be proud of!
(Not something I've ever considered, seems a right botheration)

Back on-topic : I'll support the 10.000 anythings as a basic premise.
The things we practice and improve upon do get better and smoother and more likely to succeed, even if we don't approach expertise.
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I've never machine gunned, my cameras are always set to single shot. These days I average about a thousands shots a year but 99% of those are keepers.
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Well, I would consider a 15% acceptance rate pretty good anyway, you must be quite pleased with the improvement!
Unlike most agencies, Alamy (the main one I use) does not select on subject matter but only on technical quality (although a few subjects such as ("Glamour" are not allowed) .

My 15%, later 23% were the percentages of the agency pictures out of all the pictures taken for all purposes.

For the 2000 odd images submitted in the last 2 years the number rejected for technical failure was 43 (2%).

For the first 2 years 2006/7 the comparable figures were 233 failures out of 1401 images or 17%

So further confirmation that HCB was right, after this practice period I not only submit more images, but also have very much higher technical success rate.

Of course the camera improvements have helped a lot. The last 2 years I have used EP1 G2 E410 E620 and E5, all of which easily outgun the E1 and E300 I started with
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Every time I read about the subject it seems the acceptance criteria get more difficult each year, so to increase your rate as time marches on is something to be proud of!
Ulfric,

In fact for Alamy, in some respects the tehnical requirements have been relaxed. In the early years images had to be jpg a min size of 48MB (4800x3600px) which was a hard stretch for an E1 image of 2560x1920.

In recent years this was relaxed to 24MB a doddle for a 10 or 12MP camera.

Hence I have no wish for more than 12MP
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