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Movies and YouTube

Some of you may have seen my ten minute video report from Focus on Imaging posted yesterday:


This was produced for our site Digital Photography Now and is not Olympus-specific.

Anyway, the video was shot in full HD using an OM-D E-M5 and the 12-50mm kit lens. I am not a video expert - my video knowledge is much less than my stills photography knowledge, but I know the basics and despite my relative lack of knowledge I am not that unhappy with the result above. I know where my weaknesses are and I am addressing them. Incidentally, the video was edited in Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and the final edit that I uploaded to YouTube was 1080HD 30p (H.t64/MP4) and the ten minutes amounted to just over 600MB.

Viewed on my laptop at 720HD, the final edit looks smooth and sharp. I expect YouTube to cost some quality, but I am disappointed by what YouTube is showing on the dpnowdotcom channel - the playback is jerky and there is a fair bit of noticeable detail loss.

Normally, I would just put this down to YouTube but there are other videos on YouTube that don't seem to have this problem. So the questions are: what can be done to improve the bottom line playback quality on YouTube? Are there ideal encoding settings? Did I over-compress the final edit? In other words - what is the sweet spot for getting the best YouTube results?

Any video experts out there like to comment?

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Re: Movies and YouTube

Is there any reason that you have to use YouTube? What about trying somewhere else like Vimeo for instance?
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Plain answer is that YouTube is much bigger than Vimeo - many more people will see the video on YouTube.

It doesn't help Vimeo's cause that their free account limits uploads to 500MB (the video I created is 617MB).

YouTube fulfils all the key requirements I have and I can't justifying paying for Vimeo as long as YouTube is free. In fact YouTube can earn a small commission for us.

Yes, Vimeo may have a playback quality advantage over YouTube, but I do see smooth content on YouTube so it may simply be that my editing skills need to be refined rather than switching to Vimeo.

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Plain answer is that YouTube is much bigger than Vimeo - many more people will see the video on YouTube.

It doesn't help Vimeo's cause that their free account limits uploads to 500MB (the video I created is 617MB).

YouTube fulfils all the key requirements I have and I can't justifying paying for Vimeo as long as YouTube is free. In fact YouTube can earn a small commission for us.

Yes, Vimeo may have a playback quality advantage over YouTube, but I do see smooth content on YouTube so it may simply be that my editing skills need to be refined rather than switching to Vimeo.

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Fair points Ian. I'm no YouTube/Video expert either but hopefully you'll find an answer!
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Re: Movies and YouTube

I'm upset! I didn't realise Focus was so close to me, about 20 mile away!

I wish I would of known about it earlier, any idea when it is back?
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I wish I would of known about it earlier, any idea when it is back?
Whoops! It's an annual event.

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Re: Movies and YouTube

Hi, does "you tube" offer advice on format / spec. requirements in their help sextion?
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Re: Movies and YouTube

Ian, Just had look at the video and picture detail, sharpness looks good. Don't see any jerkiness. The only blip is when camera focused.
I'm using an Apple macbook pro laptop
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Re: Movies and YouTube

I think the video looks fine on youtube once you up the playback to 1080p. It struggles a bit when you pan over the massive rig of still cameras but that is to be expected.

As a rough rule of thumb encoding at 8000 kb per second is good enough for Vimeo / Youtube. 605 seconds * 8000 kbps / 8 bits per byte = about 605mB so I reckon you encoded spot on as you said it was 617mB above
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