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View Poll Results: Are you getting fed up with Brexit and should we go back to discussing other things ?
YES - Close the thread 21 47.73%
NO - Keep the debate going on for eternity 23 52.27%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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I wish somebody would explain exactly why it will be worth it in the end
There's a strong element of extreme right wing views not to say fascism, in those supporting Brexit. It we don't exit without a deal then they will gain strength and we will be entering a very dangerous region indeed!

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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

I'm not too sure PR woks, look at the mess in mainland Europe for example. Since I don't 'drink', I cut myself off from the mess by concentrating on photography. As a hobby, it's both focused and therapeutic, always trying to better the shot last taken without becoming repetitive and end up copyimg myself.

Edit: Apologies for dragging the thread down by talking about photography.
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It took a private citizen to force a debate in parliament via the law for which the Daily Hate rags branded her and the judges "enemies of the people".
Don't forget the death and rape threats. As I've previous posted, there's an extreme right wing element in the Leave camp. It could easily morph into full blown fascism (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon for P.M., anybody?).

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I'm just clearing leaves in the garden - its more satisfying than UK politics.
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(Stephen Yaxley-Lennon for P.M., anybody?).

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Could you come and do mine, you can keep all the leaves if you like.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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I'm not too sure PR woks, look at the mess in mainland Europe for example. Since I don't 'drink', I cut myself off from the mess by concentrating on photography. As a hobby, it's both focused and therapeutic, always trying to better the shot last taken without becoming repetitive and end up copyimg myself.

Edit: Apologies for dragging the thread down by talking about photography.
Good morning sir, no problem. What ever works for you is what matters. I am clearing out my loft this morning and came across some photos of myself parachuting for therapy. I found it used to take my mind off my worries and helped me relax. I can recommend it for all the Brexiteers in this lounge ....they can go and jump

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I can recommend it for all the Brexiteers in this lounge ....they can go and jump
With or without a parachute?
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The Grauniad, of course.
Certainly not the Mail, Sun, Express, Telegraph or Sun. The Times have not been entirely factual either but at it's heart it is considerably better.

The FT is interestingly factual and to the point.

On balance the right/Brexit leaning printed press dominate and have wielded considerably more influence with the Mail being preeminent amongst them.

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I agree 100%. To accept the deal, or have another referendum is going to leave the Brexiteers forever snivelling that they were robbed and that the 'will of the people' was denied. The country will remain severely divided for a very long time.

The severe austerity following a 'no-deal' Brexit will focus minds and unite the country, ultimately leading to a request for us to rejoin the E.U.. Unfortunately the E.U. will then be firmly in the driving seat and we'll have to accept terms considerably less advantageous than those we already have.

It all seems pretty obvious to me!

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Can't say that I disagree too much with what you've said? The non-focus of minds is what has really placed us all in a cleft stick scenario.

Recent reports show that not all is well within the EU, in-as-much, that behind closed doors, they too have their own dissenters.Several EU states / countries are, to put it mildly, very,very angry with both their un-elected and elected political elite.

Recent polls have shown that this backlash is gaining from the ground up due to public opinions showing cross-party dissatisfaction with current events. Look carefully, and the cracks are beginning to show, with Mrs. Merkel, and Le Penn, topping Macron in the polls being examples. If this ground-swell continues to increase over a prolonged period of time with the inevitable result, our being out of it could prove a blessing in disguise as we would still have the .
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With or without a parachute?

Who's jumping ? Do we get a vote re the parachute ?



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Could you come and do mine, you can keep all the leaves if you like.
I was hoping to sell you some ! they are really good leaves
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I am clearing out my loft this morning and came across some photos of myself parachuting for therapy. I found it used to take my mind off my worries and helped me relax. I can recommend it for all the Brexiteers in this lounge ....they can go and jump
I heard fairly recently: 'If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is not for you!'

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Can't say that I disagree too much with what you've said? The non-focus of minds is what has really placed us all in a cleft stick scenario.

Recent reports show that not all is well within the EU, in-as-much, that behind closed doors, they too have their own dissenters.Several EU states / countries are, to put it mildly, very,very angry with both their un-elected and elected political elite.

Recent polls have shown that this backlash is gaining from the ground up due to public opinions showing cross-party dissatisfaction with current events. Look carefully, and the cracks are beginning to show, with Mrs. Merkel, and Le Penn, topping Macron in the pols being examples. If this ground-swell continues to increase over a prolonged period of time with the inevitable result, our being out of it could prove a blessing in disguise as we would stil have the .
Wait a minute Wal' - the above is not cryptic enough for you to be posting!



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Wait a minute Wal' - the above is not cryptic enough for you to be posting! Jim
OOPS! Seems I've boobed?

Is this cryptic enough for you? Stop the World, I want to get off.
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