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View Poll Results: Are you getting fed up with Brexit and should we go back to discussing other things ?
YES - Close the thread 21 47.73%
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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Well, they are ignoring people with knowledge, experience and informed opinion on the consequences of their strategy and goals. Is that dumb?
Dumb!

Such a powerful word and on this forum, it has led to division and how are we going to unite a nation divided. The ones who voted to leave, believe they are in the right and ones who voted remain, are the same. It is not helpful for either side to keep going on about being dumb. My younger brother voted to leave and he is highly intelligent and had the best education in the world, bizarre I know
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Dumb!

Such a powerful word and on this forum, it has led to division and how are we going to unite a nation divided. The ones who voted to leave, believe they are in the right and ones who voted remain, are the same. It is not helpful for either side to keep going on about being dumb. My younger brother voted to leave and he is highly intelligent and had the best education in the world, bizarre I know
Exactly, that's my view as well.

By the way your brother was right
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Exactly, that's my view as well.

By the way your brother was right
You tease, but I am not going there with him again
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.... he is highly intelligent and had the best education in the world......
And what sort of education would that be?
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

I'm not accusing anyone here of being dumb - my original use of "dumb" was as to whether those with little or no knowledge of a subject (so not "experts") should have their views judged with equal weight compared to someone who has deep knowledge and experience. I say no - so long as the expert uses evidence and clear analysis to arrive at a position.

On that basis, Brexit is a dumb idea from a short-medium economic perspective. This is clear based on the evidence, analysis and expert opinion. Not even leavers should dispute that. Leavers may have other points to argue with more confidence - sovereignty, democratic deficit of the EU, immigration etc - and I understand that. My view is that the economic pain is not a price worth paying for these things - but I have listened to the experts on those points and accept their view.
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And what sort of education would that be?
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I am just interest to know what you think (to quote) "the best education in the world" might be?

I have my own ideas but I am sure you will too.

I think the term "highly intelligent" could also be open to interpretation.
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I am just interest to know what you think (to quote) "the best education in the world" might be?

I have my own ideas but I am sure you will too.

I think the term "highly intelligent" could also be open to interpretation.
I havenít a clue what your ideas are about intelligence or education, but it is being argued that Brexit is a dumb idea, whilst no one on the forum is being accused of being dumb.

In todayís Brexit news, there is this: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/763937...n-to-politics/

Apparently David Cameron would like to come back in politics as a Foreign Secretary. Oh dear, oh dear
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I havenít a clue what your ideas are about intelligence or education, but it is being argued that Brexit is a dumb idea, whilst no one on the forum is being accused of being dumb.

In todayís Brexit news, there is this: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/763937...n-to-politics/

Apparently David Cameron would like to come back in politics as a Foreign Secretary. Oh dear, oh dear
I was interested in your statement Phil and was hoping that you might qualify it by telling us just what "the best education in the world" really means?
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

On the evidence of some of our politicians it's fairly safe to say it doesn't mean Eton .
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I havenít a clue what your ideas are about intelligence or education, but it is being argued that Brexit is a dumb idea, whilst no one on the forum is being accused of being dumb.

In todayís Brexit news, there is this: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/763937...n-to-politics/

Apparently David Cameron would like to come back in politics as a Foreign Secretary. Oh dear, oh dear
Has the guy got no shame?
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Totally agree - I can't believe it.
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Totally agree - I can't believe it.
It's hardly surprising you can't believe it. It IS an article from the Sun

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It's hardly surprising you can't believe it. It IS an article from the Sun

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Tom Newton Dunn is pretty well connected and he is usually right

It was the first item on Daily Politics just now.
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Has the guy got no shame?

More than likely. But there is also the memory issue to consider? If a week is a long time in politics... two years is obviously way, way outside his memory span. Hopefully, by the time the election comes around he will have forgotten all about it... but I'm not going to hold my breath as he's probably shacked up in his shed polishing his brass neck.
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