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Old 20th March 2013
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17mm f2.8

I only have a 12-50mm zoom for my OM-D and find it is a bit big and heavy when I just want a small camera for causal snapping.

I wondered what the panel thinks of the Olympus 17mm f2.8. It looks as though I should get one for a reasonable price and it may fit the bill. Perhaps the Panasonic 20mm would be a better bet?
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Re: 17mm f2.8

The Panasonic is a very sharp lens....I would say the 17mm f2.8 is good but I would never rave about its sharpness - although its a prime its certainly no better than the 12-50mm zoom although its faster of course.

The 17mm is good value and produces respectable results, its nice and small and fast - but if you don't mind the extra cost then go for the 20mm (its performance compares favourably with the 17mm f1.8 according to reviews I've seen).

I don't like the look of the 20mm on the Pen or OMD but that's inconsequential for most.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

I would agree with everything Brian says.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

I've no experience of the 17mm f2.8 but all the reports I have seen indicate it's not particularly well regarded.
I do have the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 and it's a great lens as Brian says and works well on the E-M5.

The shots in these two threads of mine were taken using the 20mm on my E-PL1 backup/pocket body.

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23809
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23837

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Re: 17mm f2.8

My first move into M4/3 was to buy an E-P1/VF1/17mm f2.8 kit, so for a while itwas the only lens I had for that camera. It has some distortion and CA, but I soon made a Preset in LR that fixes all that in one click.

I like the lens very much and still use it often. Not as sharp as my 25mm pancake but certainly sharp enough.

I often thought about buying a 20/f1.7 but could never justify it while the 17mm is so good.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

Oh, it's not a bad lens. I had some good results when I had mine. But apart from anything else I prefer a wider maximum aperture.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

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...I wondered what the panel though of the Olympus 17mm f2.8. ...
This part of the Panel thinks it is my most useful lens!

The focal length, colour, contrast and small size means it consistently gives me good photos and goes with me in a pocket.
I never owned the Lumix 20mm : I'm sure that would do a similar great job.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

Thanks for the comments. Another contender is the Sigma 19mm, cheap as chips (about 95) but it looks a bit bulky.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

Just a follow up. I have bought a Panasonic 20mm f1.7 from a forum member. Pics to follow.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

I just came on the forum to look for comments about the 17mm family. On the camera blogs of late everyone has been raving about the new Fujifilm X100s, the update to the excellent but flawed X100. It has a fixed 35mm f2.0 lens on an APS-C sensor which admittedly is throwing out some amazing pics on the web at the moment, but at a price; currently over £1000. They're taking a leaf out of Oly's book as well and not even including a lens hood for that price - sheesh!

So, my question in this thread is - how good is the 17mm (f1.7 or 2.8)? I came to the OM-D from a Panny G3 - it was a great little camera which got me shooting daily again, but couldn't cope with low light very well.

One of my favourite lenses on that system was the 20mm f1.7, but when I got my OM-D it just didn't seem to play nice with it - I read many forums which suggested that that Panny lens was not suitable on and Oly body, and I found it sluggish, really having to hunt to AF on the OM-D. On the G3 it was my fasted lens (f-stop and AF), but with the OM-D it has been gathering dust.

As I read the blogs about the X100s I can feel my street shooting and general desire to walk around with a camera all day juices flowing again - but surely it (or any camera?) isn't going to be as good as the OM-D or E-PL5 with the new 17mm attached, is it?
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Re: 17mm f2.8

First of all, let me put a myth to bed. The 20mm Panasonic works quite well on the E-M5. OK, focussing isn't lightning-quick, but I've not found it hunting, nor have I seen any banding.

But the Oly 17mm f1.8 is lightning-quick, and great in low light situations. I prefer those 3mm wider, as well. It's very sharp where it matters, that is, across 95% of the image, and pretty damn good across the rest. And it looks great on the silver body!
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Re: 17mm f2.8

Thanks Stephen, I wouldn't post about the 20mm if I was just quoting rumour, I found it to be the worst prime in my collection on the OM-D, which is sad but you're probably right, it still works quite well on the OM-D, just not as good as the others.

I too seem to prefer my walk about lens to be wider, I've either been taking the Panny 14mm or the 12-50 kit lens on a wander, and neither are ideal. I feel a trip to the loan store coming on...

Many thanks for your quick reply.

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Re: 17mm f2.8

Have you been able to find any reviews with performance data for the X100. I have used Dpreview and ephotozine for use in comparing lens performance but cant see and comparable reports for the X100
I suspect the X100 performs perfectly well, it has a 40% larger sensor so noise should be well controlled if the Fuji electronics is as good as the Olympus. I'd be frustrated with a fixed focal length personally. The Fuji is as attractive as the Olympus in my opinion...they both compete equally in the good looks stakes. If you can afford to have the Fuji and a CSC for flexibility then thats the way I'd go. Many people in the past have enjoyed a full SLR system and a rangefinder....it doesn't have to be one or the other.
Have both and if one doesn't earn its keep then you can sell it.
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Re: 17mm f2.8

I haven't seen any metrics / performance reviews, just real world reviews from expert photographers who are saying the new X100s could easily be their rangefinder / second body / main vacation camera easily. Guys like Zach Arias are calling it new Leica, which for a camera and lens that costs $19,000 less than the same Leica + lens combo is praise indeed.

I could blow £1000 on the X100s (and my local camera shop has the silver one in stock - scary!), but if I got the 17mm f1.7 and put it on my OM-D would it be £700 worse? I really don't feel like it should be, but I guess I'll just have to go shoot and see.

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Re: 17mm f2.8

You put the 17mm f1.8 on your E-M5 and you'll have a camera easily the equal of the X100 for 99% of the time. Better low-light performance and faster focussing. The only things which will/may bring the E-M5 down a few points is the purely electronic viewfinder compared to the optical + information-overlay of the X100, and the depth-of-focus difference because of the sensor size.

And that's not to knock the X100, a camera which I respect. I have its small brother the X10 and it's a good pocket camera.
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