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Old 6th July 2008
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EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

Hi, looking to buy a 50-200swd to complement my E3, but i'm unsure as to what teleconverter to use, any advise would be welcome, thanks. I'm not to bothered about the extra focal length the EC-20 will give, i'm just looking for the option that would give me the best image quality, thanks, Phil,
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

I have the EC-14 to complement the 50-200SWD on my E-510 and find it is a perfect match. Still focusses quickly, and gives a useful amount of extra reach with no compromises.
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

Well I can't comment on the ec1.4 and the swd version of the 50-200, that's up to you rich folks with your swanky new version of the lens.

However the ec1.4 and the original 50-200 have long been fabled as a match made in heaven, you'll search long and hard for a bad comment. There seem to be more mixed views about the ec2.0, but I haven't tried one.

I'd recommend the ec1.4, I think practically everybody does.

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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

says he with the shiny black E-3

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.....that's up to you rich folks with your swanky new version of the lens.

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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

I've got an EC-14 with my 50-200.

I find it to be a good combination with my E-3, although it does 'hunt' at times (usually when I'm trying to photograph birds in flight . My Sigmonster seems to cope better with that scenario).

I've heard mixed stories about the EC-20 too - some say it's good, some that it doesn't seem to have much advantage over the EC-14 (why I don't know ).

Doesn't stop me wanting to try one out though - except money !

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I've had both the EC-20 and the EC-14 on a SWD 50-200mm, and for me the extra stop of light lost and additional softness is just not worth the extra reach. I would rathre stay sharp and have the extra stop in hand, get the shot and crop if needs be at the Post Processing stage.

Needless to say the EC-14 may as well be welded to the 50-200SWD now

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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

.Thanks for the response guys, i think i'm leaning towards the 1.4 although i can get a EC-20 for 60 less .By the way Thea how do you rate your sigmonster against the 50-200 for image quality?
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

There's no doubt the EC14 and the old 50-200 are an excellent combination. I tried the EC20 with the old 50-200 at Woburn and got some good results but I need to learn more about managing DOF at that focal length.
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By the way Thea how do you rate your sigmonster against the 50-200 for image quality?
Well, they both have a lot going for them. I like the quality of the 50-200mm, as shown here (not using the EC-14 though!):


The Sigmonster, on the other hand, is great at getting even 'closer to the action', as shown here:


My main gripe with the Sigmonster is that it doesn't particularly like taking shots against bright skies (such as on cloudy days). I seem to get some pretty bad fringing around whatever it is I'm taking (such as birds in flight). Otherwise it's a cracking lens.

I love both of them for different reasons - only other downside to the Sigmonster is the size and weight. The 50-200mm on the other hand is wonderfully light to carry round.

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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

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.Thanks for the response guys, i think i'm leaning towards the 1.4 although i can get a EC-20 for £60 less .By the way Thea how do you rate your sigmonster against the 50-200 for image quality?
Have a look at my bird images here... http://www.reflectingme.com/p502472125/

All (or most) should have EXIF, the recent ones are with the 'SigMonster' (50-500mm) and the others are with the 70-300, and the puffins with the 70-300 plus EC14.

Incidentally... the 1st image in that gallery i.s. of the Song Thrush - was taken with the Sigma 50-500mm PLUS the EC14 AND was handheld

Love them all... the 70-300 (which I know you are not referring to here) is an awesome budget lens that's capable of stunning quality, couple this with the superb EC14 and you get a double whammy budget sooperdooper 420mm lens... and the Siggy 50-500mm is also proving to be a wonderful lens.

Persevere with your choice and you'll be a happy camper.

I do know though that, together with most Oly lenses, the Oly 50-200mm is an exceptional piece of glass.
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

Hi John, you got some great shots there, i think its made my mind up, its the EC1.4 for me. Was thinking getting the "bigma", but its just too big to carry around, i'm off now to order my 50-200swd and EC-14. Thanks for all your help guys.
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

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Hi John, you got some great shots there, i think its made my mind up, its the EC1.4 for me. Was thinking getting the "bigma", but its just too big to carry around, i'm off now to order my 50-200swd and EC-14. Thanks for all your help guys.
I think you made the right decision, the EC-14 only loses one stop, compared to 2 stops for the EC-20. Although the 50-200 is relatively fast wide open (2.8-3.5), this translates into f/4-5.0 with the EC-14 and 5.6-7.1 with the EC-20. The stronger power of the EC-20 is a bigger optical compromise and so it will need more stopping down for optical sharpness than an EC-14. 5.6 is almost at the sweet spot for resolution before diffraction softening starts to show, so a 50-200 with an EC-20 will almost always be diffraction-affected.

On the other hand, if you use an EC-20 with an f/2 prime or constant aperture lens, the brightness only drops to f/4, and an f/2.8 prime or constant aperture zoom lens to f/5.6. All the Digital Zuiko f/2 or f/2.8 primes or constant aperture zooms work very well at full aperture, so there is less need for a 'confidence' stopping down

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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

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i'm off now to order my 50-200swd and EC-14
Drop Ian (Kerso) a PM for his latest price if you want to save some money and deal with a trusted source. I done loads of business with him over the past 18 months without a hitch as have many other on this forum.

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Old 7th July 2008
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

Thanks again for the advice , i ordered my 50-200swd through kersos ebay site, i paid 639 inc postage, which ain't a bad deal, however he didn't have an EC -14, but i will pm him to see if he can get me one.
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Re: EC-14 or EC-20 with 50-200swd

The 50-200swd arrived today the EC-14 is coming tommorrow, thanks all for putting me onto kerso, looks like i'm gonna have fun this weekend!
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