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60mm Macro

I recently acquired the 60mm Macro lens from Lizzie Shepherd.

Playing with the lens now. Macro has never really been one of my tools, except with a telephoto lens.

How do you get any DoF with the 1:1 option? No doubt a fairly specialised subject I guess. Photo stacking might work, with a tripod to hold the camera/ lens steady...

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Re: 60mm Macro

I nearly got a 60mm macro the other day too Mark but just couldn't agree a price with the seller. Looking at a DoF calculator then at 60mm, f2.8 and a subject distance of 19cm the DoF is only 0.06cm. As you said pretty small! I guess people tend to use flash to be able to open up the aperture at f8 the DoF would be 1.6 mm. Stacking certainly does seem to be your friend with this lens especially if you don't want to use flash.

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Re: 60mm Macro

I use flash so i can go to about f8 and keep a low iso and shutter speed, ok this was on a Panasonic G80 but i used the Ollympus60mm


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Re: 60mm Macro

Here is one from an Olympus,iused f10 for this


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Re: 60mm Macro

I have an article about stacking with the 60mm on my website at: http://home.btconnect.com/mike.flemming/stacking.html
I must update it for the latest firmware, which now allows more stacking steps.
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Re: 60mm Macro

I find that when using the 60mm macro on little critters it's better to use as fast a shutter speed as possible by pushing the ISO up to 800 or 1600 or more to try and reduce blurring caused by small movements. As already shown using a higher aperture does helps improve depth of field but it's still not very much when you are so close as Phill D says above. Pushing the aperture beyond F11 does improve the DOF but diffraction distortion starts to blur the overall image.
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Re: 60mm Macro

Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it except add more f!
Download a Dof calc on your phone and see what you can expect.
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Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it ..................

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Re: 60mm Macro

Probably a wee bit late in the day... but look up reverse lens macro.

In a previous life whilst a member on another togging forum, we had a chap from Malasia who turned out stunning macro shots. The detail, in a word was... "WOW".

The added bonus, is that you may already have an assortment of lens that can be used via a reversal ring = chirpy, chirpy cheep, cheep macro and the dosh stays in the wallet.
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Re: 60mm Macro

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Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it except add more f!
Download a Dof calc on your phone and see what you can expect.
Don’t you mean mathS?
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I recently acquired the 60mm Macro lens from Lizzie Shepherd.

Playing with the lens now. Macro has never really been one of my tools, except with a telephoto lens.

How do you get any DoF with the 1:1 option? No doubt a fairly specialised subject I guess. Photo stacking might work, with a tripod to hold the camera/ lens steady...

Any photo tips appreciated...………….
F8 or, more often, f11.

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Re: 60mm Macro

I do all my flash (fill) macro in Manual Mode. Your flash duration is your exposure not your shutter speed.

Use the highest shutter speed to prevent ghosting from daylight. If you want to use low ISO make sure it is not so low as to allow ghosting.

If you set the shutter speed to higher than the flash sync speed it will change accordingly when you turn the flash on.

f11 is my standard aperture but 8, 9 & 10 also feature. I don't do much at 1:1, where f8 will probably mostly do the job. For something like dragonflies you need f11 to get the wingspan or entire body in focus, if that is what you want. I specify the aperture on all my posted images, many with my 50mm, others with x2 TC behind it.

I have button Fn1 set to focus peaking and Fn2 to DOF preview. Aperture is on the front dial and shutter speed on the rear dial.

This is on the EM-1 original and is not lens-specific.

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