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OV3 - manual?

Has anyone found a printed/printable manual for OV3 anywhere? I can't find anything. The online help files have a print option for selected prints, but I'd quite like a pdf of the whole thing (or of something better).
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Re: OV3 - manual?

I don't believe there is such a thing as a manual for OV3 or that many people make serious use of it.

A much better option if you don't want to spend money on commercial raw conversion/post processing software is FastStone http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm
It's free (unless you want to make a voluntary contribution) and includes a 95 page downloadable pdf Tutorial/Manual.

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Re: OV3 - manual?

This guy appears to use OV3 - though he is an Olympus employee so maybe this is part PR.

https://robinwong.blogspot.co.uk/201...-purposes.html

But I appreciate your suggestion. I'm new to this game and haven't explored post processing at all yet, apart from what came free on the disc with the camera. No doubt I will want to at some point.
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Re: OV3 - manual?

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This guy appears to use OV3 - though he is an Olympus employee so maybe this is part PR.

https://robinwong.blogspot.co.uk/201...-purposes.html

But I appreciate your suggestion. I'm new to this game and haven't explored post processing at all yet, apart from what came free on the disc with the camera. No doubt I will want to at some point.
Thanks I hadn't seen that post from Robin. He is well known to most of us and his photography is quite inspirational. You will notice that he does very little pp and I think many of us think he is one of those photographers who couldn't take a "poor" shot if he tried. His comment about using OV3 because it "preserves the Olympus colours" etc. is very telling. I and many others believe that OV3 is actually the same as the in camera Olympus firmware. Certainly if you compare an out of camera JPEG with the same shot processed from raw in OV3 (with the default settings) the result is identical. Further back I believe Robin just used ooc JPEGS. OV hasn't changed significantly in performance over the years and there are now many more capable and easier to use programmes available elsewhere.

Way back in the days of the Olympus 4/3rds DSLRs Robin was actually an engineer (civil engineer IIRC) with a photography blog who was a great Olympus fan. Olympus Malaysia persuaded him to give up engineering and join them, presumably because his work was such a good advert for their products.

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Re: OV3 - manual?

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This guy appears to use OV3 - though he is an Olympus employee so maybe this is part PR.

https://robinwong.blogspot.co.uk/201...-purposes.html

But I appreciate your suggestion. I'm new to this game and haven't explored post processing at all yet, apart from what came free on the disc with the camera. No doubt I will want to at some point.
I think it is good to explore the possibilities within OV3 & I still use it for quick editing & resizing, plus importing of photos all the time & I only use Capture One for more serious editing, especially if I need to recover blown highlights where OV3 just doesn't manage to do it. It's also a good place to play with the different Art Filters with the raw files. Once you have mastered most essential features etc., you may decide to try something more capable like Capture One (or LR) etc.
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Re: OV3 - manual?

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Has anyone found a printed/printable manual for OV3 anywhere? I can't find anything.

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But I appreciate your suggestion. I'm new to this game and haven't explored post processing at all yet, apart from what came free on the disc with the camera. No doubt I will want to at some point.
I searched and searched and couldn't find anything to help use OV3. A pity as while it's a bit slow and clunky it can produce results.

I had been using JPG only and editing in GIMP (free, open source Photoshop alternative).
Later I discovered that anything with a colour gradient - sunsets or whatever would turn into horrible bands if you did too much with curves or levels because of the limited bit depth (colours) of the JPG.
I then started shooting JPG+RAW and using OV3 when I wanted to do more than a simple crop and minor curve/levels correction but found it confusing to use esp. the export options.
You can get around that (to a point) by using OV3 to do basic adjustments then exporting to TIFF (which isn't compressed) then playing with that in GIMP fnally saving as JPG for the web or whatever.

I recently got Lightroom but haven't done much more than install it so far. As many, many people recommend it I decided it was worth a punt. There is a free trial - I went for a standalone DVD version as I didn't fancy the monthly subscription.

If you haven't already committed to software you may still be able to bag a free copy of DxO OpticsPro 9 to play with.
http://www.dxo.com/us/digitalcamerauk

There is also the Free Nik Collection - very useful for making Black and White conversions.
You can run the programs in Windows by finding the executables and creating shortcuts to them. Beware of them overwriting the original files so work on copies.
https://www.google.com/nikcollection/

The whole post processing thing is a bit of a rabbit hole - you can spend a lot of time fiddling with the image but just an automatic adjustment to levels in GIMP has turned an average picture into something I'm proud of .
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Re: OV3 - manual?

Thanks for info. Sadly free deal from DXO seems to have expired at the end of Feb :-(
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Re: OV3 - manual?

No manual as such, but there's not a great deal to OV3. That said, don't underestimate it. It's a fine, if basic, raw converter, and provides the Olympus look with the benefits of raw. For me, the only significant missing feature is micro contrast (aka clarity aka structure)l.
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Re: OV3 - manual?

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Thanks for info. Sadly free deal from DXO seems to have expired at the end of Feb :-(
Did you try it? It was reported to be working well after the expiry deadline.

I recently discovered something significant missing from OV3 - I can't find any way to rotate the image by an arbitrary angle - 90 or 180 but not 2 or 3 degrees to level a horizon. Seriously frustrating!
If here is a way please show me where!

I've got Lightroom - I just need to work out how to use it properly!
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Did you try it? It was reported to be working well after the expiry deadline.

I recently discovered something significant missing from OV3 - I can't find any way to rotate the image by an arbitrary angle - 90 or 180 but not 2 or 3 degrees to level a horizon. Seriously frustrating!
If here is a way please show me where!

I've got Lightroom - I just need to work out how to use it properly!
Unfortunately, it isn't possible to rotate the image in Edit mode (although can flip), but it is possible when viewing the thumbnails. It does seem odd it isn't available when editing, doesn't it?
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Unfortunately, it isn't possible to rotate the image in Edit mode (although can flip), but it is possible when viewing the thumbnails. It does seem odd it isn't available when editing, doesn't it?
It was available in OV2! For a while I was tempted to go back to this version just for this capability as going back to thumbnail view to rotate seemed slightly odd and there was no undo (not sure if rotating jpegs did a new save and slowly lowered quality).
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It was available in OV2! For a while I was tempted to go back to this version just for this capability as going back to thumbnail view to rotate seemed slightly odd and there was no undo (not sure if rotating jpegs did a new save and slowly lowered quality).
A good reason to always save a raw file as well.
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It was available in OV2! For a while I was tempted to go back to this version just for this capability as going back to thumbnail view to rotate seemed slightly odd and there was no undo (not sure if rotating jpegs did a new save and slowly lowered quality).
In RAW Development mode you can rotate Clockwise 90degrees, Counter clockwise 90 degrees or 180 degrees by right clicking in the image.
I assume this is non-destructive on an ORF.

But you can't rotate by a few degrees to level a horizon etc.

I have OV2 installed too - I use that for my E-PL5 so I can import images to a different location for that camera.
You're right it does have a "tilt adjustment" which is just what I wanted.
Having played with it just now OV2 is much quicker than OV3 too.
Such a shame it doesn't support the ORF files from my OM-D E-M10
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In RAW Development mode you can rotate Clockwise 90degrees, Counter clockwise 90 degrees or 180 degrees by right clicking in the image.
I assume this is non-destructive on an ORF.

But you can't rotate by a few degrees to level a horizon etc.

I have OV2 installed too - I use that for my E-PL5 so I can import images to a different location for that camera.
You're right it does have a "tilt adjustment" which is just what I wanted.
Having played with it just now OV2 is much quicker than OV3 too.
Such a shame it doesn't support the ORF files from my OM-D E-M10
I don't normally use that mode of raw development in OV3 but just click on the raw (ORF) thumbnail & then select Edit on the top right instead, so I don't get the rotate function in that mode though.
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I don't normally use that mode of raw development in OV3 but just click on the raw (ORF) thumbnail & then select Edit on the top right instead, so I don't get the rotate function in that mode though.
BRILLIANT - that mode DOES have tilt adjustment under the Edit tab
You can go as far as 90 degrees in either direction as well as in smaller increments.
I knew it was in there somewhere
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