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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Thanks for all the extra info and pics, folks. I am now heading in a clear direction towards buying into the m43 system whilst holding onto the E520 and getting an adaptor. Timing is still being considered.

Some thoughts:

The M43 set up looks to be about a 1/4 to a 1/3 smaller. I assume that there is a weight saving too. They also seem to be better focussing and the processing is better. These are all big things. I guess the only thing to offset on that is the cost of replacing the whole kit and kaboodle, which is where buying an adaptor and perhaps using two bodies comes in.

The 70-300 looks huge on the smaller m43 body when the adaptor is attached. I'd imagine that's not easy to work with becuase of the front weight.

So, if 2 bodies were useful, I could just buy a m43 a body with a wide zoom and use the M43 for wide shots (also with the 9-18 plus adaptor)

I'd keep the E520 for telephoto - esp with the 70-300 - at least until I could afford other lenses for the m43 system.

The 75-300 seems to be about 350 new. That's quite reasonable.

The 9-18 is not nearly so cumbersome as the 70-300 - it's big enough- but I think would work better on an EM1 in terms of weight than the 70-300. This makes it the 43 lense I am least likely to want to replace.

I have never had any issue with the kit zooms I got with the E520. I hear good things about the m43 12-40mm. However, I'm looking at adding 600 to my costs over and above the 14-42mm. One thing may be to get the 14-42 and use the 9-18mm with an adaptor alongside it. The 9-18 is a great lense and I love using it and I think it would be much less cumbersome on an em1 than the 70-300 appears to be.

It seems to be not too much diiference in cost to buy a EM10 with two kit lenses as an EM1 body only...so that's one decision. However, I hear so much that's good about the EM1 that I am lured that way. If it works the 9-18mm very well, that may sway it. I don't intend to replace that lense as it is - think I paid around 600 for it (memory may be off) and I love it anyway.

In terms of 2nd hand E1s and indeed new kit, where do you suggest looking? There do seem to be some good bargains around for the EM1 right now (under 700 for a new body only).

It's time to look at the current market for new and second hand - best places for good deals anyone?

And also to look at what the mk11 E M1 is going to look like (a good link for this anyone?)
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

I've also just found a discussion online which says that the FT9-18mm is (if anything) better than the m43 9-18mm (albeit bigger) and that it works well on both the E m1 and the E m10 for focussing. That's also food for thought.

As I said the E M1 body is a tad more expensive than the E m10 with 2 kit lenses so there's a bit of thinking to be done there.

Effectively, I could use an E M10 with two kit lenses and the 9-18mm and this would be a big improvement on the E520 with the same equivalent lenses. I wouldn't have a partcular focus issue with the 9-18mm.

I could then use the E520 mainly with the 70-300mm.

So then the question becomes, how much do I need an E M1 over a mk 11 E M10?

Also in terms of adaptors, is the Oly recommended over the generic ones?
Think my OM 43 adaptor is generic.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

One thing the E-M1 and both versions of E-M5 have that the E-M10 doesn't is weathersealing. If this is not relevant to you there is no need to consider it, of course. I shoot stuff in the rain and reckon it is worth having, even if only for peace of mind. Also I think the image stabilisation system in the 1 & 5 is "better" than the 10 - but whether that makes a difference in practice I've no idea.

One place to start looking for used kit is right here! There is a buy+sell section of the forum. There is always an element of risk with private purchases but I have bought several times from members and never had a less than excellent experience. There is a sub-section of the forum for buyer and seller feedback as well.

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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Thanks.

I shoot in light rain and drizzle with my E520, which I'd imagine is similar to the E10 for that. Never had any problem. I tend to hide the camera under a coat. prepare it under cover, bob out quick, take a shot or two and then head back to cover to wipe it down with a soft cloth.

I wouldn't shoot in very heavy weather, but medium or drizzle as above.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

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Also in terms of adaptors, is the Oly recommended over the generic ones?
Think my OM 43 adaptor is generic.
I would recommend sticking with an Olympus (or Panasonic) adapter but not a generic. The Olympus MMF-2 is cheaper without weather sealing unlike the MMF-3 (the current one) which has it. I started out with the 70-300 lens on the E-M5 with my own adapted grip until I could afford the 75-300 lens being smaller & lighter in weight (but a little darker with aperture but not really an issue).

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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

I think the m43 lenses looks so much easier to use. I've always found the 70-300 quite bulky and hard to use.

Interesting with the altered lens hoods. What did you do to get them to fit?
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

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I think the m43 lenses looks so much easier to use. I've always found the 70-300 quite bulky and hard to use.

Interesting with the altered lens hoods. What did you do to get them to fit?
I bought a JJC 61D copy & trimmed out the lugs to suit.


From this.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Nice job.

That's going to save space in the bag
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

I know that there is a buying and selling forum here:

What chance do you think, of getting something for an OM2n (I am keeping my OM2 spot program as I may take more slides in the future), a Tamron 28-80 and a Vivitar 17mm? the lenses come with filters and everything works fine.

Selling these may help raise funds of the new project.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

This discussion has really helped me and all of the snippets of info and expertise and photos.

I have seen an E10 kit with the two lenses for 565 online. That is pretty decent. I am convinced that this camera would be a big step up from my E520. I am very tempted.

It's now looking between doing that now or waiting until spring to see what happens with the new E1 and anything else that may come out (plus saving up a few pounds on the way). But you folks have certainly helped me make the decision to move into m43. Now it's just about when i do that over the next 6 months.

I am also tempted by the E1, but mainly because of it's build - and the weatherproofing.

However, I think the E520 is probably similar to the E10 for keeping water out and as I said before I am used to whipping that out in light or moderate rain for 5-10 seconds, taking care, snapping a shot or two and getting into cover to wipe it down. It's never been a problem. I think I'd be unlucky or would have been overly reckless to get an issue with the E10 if it's about the same for weather proofing.

I am also tempted by the 12-40mm, but since I have the 4/3 9-18 and love it and the pancake is so small and light I think I would find more use with using these two than getting the 12-40.

So by getting the E10, I will save 500 or so and can maybe sell a few items here (and I have an amplifier to sell elsewhere which is worth 150+) enabling me to buy the adaptor and/or maybe a generic fisheye (which I have never owned, but always fancied having).

I could go out with the E10 and the two kit lenses, plus 9-18 and do pretty well. If I needed to do a big mix of telephoto and wide, I could stick the E520 alongside in the bigger of two Crumpler bags I have and either use its kit lens or the 70-300. (I haven't decided whether to seel that and buy a 75-300 at this point)
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

I have my EM-5 plus grip on sale here :-) http://ffordes.com/home which is weather proof and you could pick up the kit lenses also here might be cheaper than going new?
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Snookerman, it is best to stick with the model name E-M1, E-M5 or E-M10 & not E1 because that was the first DSLR that some people dig out & use occasionally or even sell. Of course I could be ultra pedantic & say the latest model names are OM-D E-M1 etc.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Ok. Will try to do that, and will look at sale, Technician
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

Check out Amazon gold box sale on Olympus kit.
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Re: E520 - stick, wait or upgrade now?

I've had a look. I don't see anything except binoculars today.
I'll look again tomorrow.
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