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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Does live composite works as good on the em10 and em1 is what am trying find out
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Does live composite works as good on the em10 and em1 is what am trying find out
Yes - they work in an identical fashion.
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I've come to decision I can't have everything the big stuff too big for me now and never comes out with us. So decided go back to smaller kit and learn. I've tried a EM 1 was very impress with speed and sharpness of image. Was going for it till I read it not as good as em10 and em5 with long exposure
How much long exposure photography do you do? With the comparisons I've seen, at long exposures the E-M5 is less noisey but the E-M1 has better colour rendition. However, the differences are relatively minor.

A bigger issue between the E-M10 and E-M1 is handling - which feels best to you?
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Not bothered about handling I can adjust easily to any

Just want good photos lol
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With this in mind it making me lean toward em10 or am I being silly. I've tried a EM 1 and was very impress with images. But read bad things about long exposure on it when the em10 handles it better?
Unless you're doing astro photography then the long exposure noise characteristics of the E-M1 will not be a problem for you.

If it were me, I'd go for:

- E-M10 if cost, built-in flash and small size are important

- E-M1 if speed, handling, balance with bigger lenses and use of 4/3 lenses is important

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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Thank that's help a bit.

Is it true the live composite helps with the long exposure problem??

Also notice u a EM 5 u happy with it
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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

I need to update my sig. I've got an E-M5 and an E-M1 at the moment. The E-M5 is a great camera, but it's lagging behind in firmware features compared to the other cameras in the range. Still takes great shots though (when I do my bit!).

Live composite helps for things like startrails, but it won't fix the basic noise problem with long exposures. This is the definitive article on the E-M1 dark noise issue:

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/m43/em1-em5-dark.html

The author's summary (Steve Wrotniak) is this:

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The E-M5 and E-M1 are not cameras designed to perform well in long-exposure astrophotography. For that, look elsewhere, preferably for a camera with a "full frame" sensor. (The quotes are intentional: a few decades ago this size was called "small frame".)
For any other use, however, the static noise in these cameras is not a hindrance: exposures of up to 60 seconds should be clean up to ISO 400 (or a bit higher), and ISOs above that are perfectly usable below one second. Even ISO 25600 delivers sort-of acceptable results at handholdable shutter speeds, as you can see in my high-ISO image samples.
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I need to update my sig. I've got an E-M5 and an E-M1 at the moment. The E-M5 is a great camera, but it's lagging behind in firmware features compared to the other cameras in the range. Still takes great shots though (when I do my bit!).

Live composite helps for things like startrails, but it won't fix the basic noise problem with long exposures. This is the definitive article on the E-M1 dark noise issue:

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/m43/em1-em5-dark.html
Strange thing is the EM 5 behave better on that ground LOL... Shame there not test on the EM10
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Strange thing is the EM 5 behave better on that ground LOL... Shame there not test on the EM10
E-M5 & E-M10 use the same Sony sensor so the good results should be the same on the E-M10.
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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

To be honest I think at this stage it really is now up to you which model you choose.
Asking people if they are happy with their model only helps up to a point, because we all do different types of photography, and look for different things in a camera. For me, size, weight, and handling are important, plus nature photography is my "thing" when thinking of lenses.
If you are happy with the E-M1 then why not stick with that, as image quality between them all is negligable, as with all CSC, or all DLSR's nowadays.
The differences are down to personal preferences.
I hope this helps!
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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

So on that ground for the noise level the EM10 be the better bet over the EM1... That sorted

For Static AF both be on par as have the same amount of AF points and speed?

But for C-af the EM1 is quicker but by how much
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To be honest I think at this stage it really is now up to you which model you choose.
Asking people if they are happy with their model only helps up to a point, because we all do different types of photography, and look for different things in a camera. For me, size, weight, and handling are important, plus nature photography is my "thing" when thinking of lenses.
If you are happy with the E-M1 then why not stick with that, as image quality between them all is negligable, as with all CSC, or all DLSR's nowadays.
The differences are down to personal preferences.
I hope this helps!
Ive not got a OMD that the point I am going to get one this week but which I don't know... So far it seems the EM10
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So on that ground for the noise level the EM10 be the better bet over the EM1... That sorted

For Static AF both be on par as have the same amount of AF points and speed?

But for C-af the EM1 is quicker but by how much
The E-M1 is getting another firmware update on Tuesday where C-AF will be improved & be able to shoot at (up to) 9 fps (on Hi). Some have already unofficially downloaded & updated their cameras with some good results so far, but it all depends on what you intend to photograph & your budget etc. as to which camera you should decide on.
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Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

The EM1 I can get a 6 month old one with the old kit lens not the EZ one for 700 but it the pixel that worries me now since the Em10 is better on that ground???
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The EM1 I can get a 6 month old one with the old kit lens not the EZ one for 700 but it the pixel that worries me now since the Em10 is better on that ground???
The E-M5 & 10 is only better than the E-M1 for star trails long exposures where the Noise Reduction (dark frame subtraction) is turned off, otherwise it is the same. For everything else the E-M1 will outperform the others.
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