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Any Printer opinions here?

Trying to decide whether to go for a "Pro" photo printer, looking at the Canon and Epson multiple cartridge types, and A3.

The Canon Pixima 100 seems to have good write ups, and it's wireless which means I don't have to worry about where I locate it!

What other options should I look at?

Or do I stick with a cheap document printer and use a print service?
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

I still use the forerunners to the Pixima range, the s900 A3+ and the s600 A4, I have used these since 2006, and never had any problem with either, so I highly recommend Canon, just watch the price of the cartridges, grm for grm they are almost the most expensive thing on the planet.

I keep a set of Canon cartridges in the A3 for final print, but use a much cheaper alternative in the A4 for setting up.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

I love doing my own prints, to me it's all part of the photography workflow, it's my hobby and I enjoy printing my own so don't really worry whether it's cheaper to go to print service.
So my advice is to buy a decent A3 printer but it depends if you are prepared or want to spend the time and money doing your own prints.

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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

I haven't yet tried the more recent Canon Pixma models but they seem to be good. Epson Pro models were the only ones to go for at one point and remain a very safe bet. My A2 Stylus Pro 3800 is about 5 years old now but still going strong. My advice is to go for a printer with as large as you can get ink tanks because you will be using a lot of ink and the larger the tanks the better value the ink will be. Unless you are thinking of doing a CIS (continuous ink supply) conversion with a reputable CIS kit, another important bit of advice is to avoid non-original ink like the plague. You almost certainly won't get print longevity and at worst your print heads could be damaged by cheap ink. If that's not enough you are likely to encounter colour accuracy problems as well.

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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

I had an Epson R2400 (A3+, 3 black inks) which worked well but gave up the ghost after more than 10 years. I had a look around and spoke to the helpful guys at Fotospeed, and it seemed that the choice comes down to the Epson SC-P600 or a Canon with a long name that I can't remember. I think the Canon does A2 (for which I have no need) and is bigger and a little more expensive so I settled on the Epson and it does all I would expect, as well as I would expect it to. The ink cartridges are twice the size of the ones in the old 2400 so I hope it will be more economical - although as Paul says it isn't all about the economics, a big factor is the satisfaction and convenience of making your own prints.

Epson have more recently launched the SC-P400. This looks as if it is a lower-spec version of the SC-P600, it doesn't have the multiple black inks for example. If B&W is important to you, that may not be so good, if it isn't it may be worth a look.

I think most mid-market and upwards printers will run wireless these days.

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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

Have you considered the Epson Photo R2000?
It does A3+ and 13" Roll paper.
Interfaces are LAN, USB, and WiFi.
I'm very pleased with the output from mine.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

Have used an Epson 2880. For a few years including printing my LRPS panel. My only complaint was the small size of the cartridges. The SC-P600, its predecessor, has bigger tanks and the output I have seen looks very good.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

Bare in mind if you don't use a printer a lot, the inks tend to dry up.
Given that friends with A3 printers have found some on-line services are cheaper than decent consumables for their printer, and generally give excellent quality, I can't see the benefit in printing my own above A4.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

I have an Epson 3800 A2 printer which is great, and an R800 A4 which isn't. The problem with the R800 is the cartridge size. There are 8 carts which means that at any one time at least one of them is almost empty. When you change a cart the printer does a head clean which uses up ink from every cart, and the result is that a sizeable proportion of the ink ends up wasted in the cleaning tank.

The 3800 not only uses much larger carts which are much cheaper per ml of ink, but doesn't do a cleaning cycle when you change one. You can change a cart in the middle of making a print too, with no visible effect on the result.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

Many thanks all...

Has anyone got for a CIS conversion? and which one?

Went to the local photography club for a talk about art print papers and they did a CIS, but I didn't keep the details as the printer I had was fairly new and I had no intention of replacing it!

It's just died! - my fault too
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

Continuous Ink Systems (CIS) are fine if you're printing every day (or at least a couple of times a week) but I wouldn't recommend one for an occasional user. I had one on an Epson 2100 which worked OK but eventually caused a terminal clog. You need to use the printer regularly to avoid problems.
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Re: Any Printer opinions here?

For competition work the Epson with K3 inks is hard to beat.

For proof prints I use a Canon Pixma with Tesco (Jettek) ink. I've never had a problem with Tesco ink in the Canon and for "proofs" the quality is adequate.
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