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What sort of word is that?"


I ask you Sir, what sort of word is that?", said Prof. Higgins.
Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?


Every now and then on media we hear baffling new words or old ones pronounced differently to the way they once were.
Repeatedly in public conversation is, "democratised" - eg., "public institutions need to be democratized"? In practice what exactly does that mean?

New words and phrases are being coined that haven't yet found their way into the lexicons of twentieth century English.
I'll try to list them at time of utterance. Meanwhile, please feel free to add any irritating examples of your own.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

Okay, listening to my pillow radio in the small hours this morning, here a few more words and phrases whose meaning to me remains unclear:
Psychopunk, Hodler, Blockchain, each associated with the curious new currency, Bitcoin that has governments worried whilst gaining clandestine support from some of its elected representatives.

And can anyone tell me what "fast fashion" is? ... Trendy gear that comes and quickly goes I suppose.

All very perplexing, I'm getting too old to keep up with all the new global vernacular.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

[QUOTE=pandora;436046]Okay, listening to my pillow radio in the small hours this morning, here a few more words and phrases whose meaning to me remains unclear:
Psychopunk, Hodler, Blockchain, each associated with the curious new currency, Bitcoin.

And can anyone tell me what "fast fashion" is? ... Trendy gear that comes and quickly goes I suppose.



To me fashion, nowadays, is something which appears to make people rich by designing clothes which no-one seems to wear. Maybe I'm too old as well
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Grow or Growing your business is a phrase that seems wrong to me somehow. Maybe like Mark, I'm just getting too old John
Oh that's an easy one, it means fertilising your ambitions with plenty of good old fashioned greed!
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

Not a word as such but I am constantly irritated by the phrase 'moving forward'.

The same people also tend to use phrases such as 'hitting the ground running' and 'taking a helicopter view'.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

Nigel - Phrases too are included in the round up, especially those you mention.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

'hitting the ground running' and 'taking a helicopter view'

If you put those two together, does that mean spinning out of control until you "crash and burn"?

Personally, I hate the way that American English is taking us over. "Slating" and "Bombing" being two words that now have different meaning to what I used to understand.

Having worked with Americans on motor vehicle development, I'm familiar with "runners", "rockers" and "fenders".... but it doesn't make them any less grating!
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Personally, I hate the way that American English is taking us over. !
Perhaps if they spent more time reading 'proper books' rather than texting / tweeting etc., they might not have had an open opportuity to butcher the English style of the English language as we olde fartes know it.

Mind you, with words such as 'floccinaucinihilipilification' now entering into the on-line mix... perhaps, not all is lost?
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Perhaps if they spent more time reading 'proper books' rather than texting / tweeting etc., they might not have had an open opportuity to butcher the English style of the English language as we olde fartes know it.

Mind you, with words such as 'floccinaucinihilipilification' now entering into the on-line mix... perhaps, not all is lost?
Quite a lot of American English is actually archaic English. We were taught to spell e.g. focussing, labelling, etc; but I have an 1841 dictionary, printed in London, which uses the spellings focusing, labeling, etc! Strange thing, language.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

"Leverage". In the media, the American pronunciation is now universal.

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Re: What sort of word is that?"

It's not only words and their spelling that grates.
Listening to an American woman speak, or rather 'talk', is like visiting a saw mill.

Another phrase that we are hearing is, 'they live in a bubble'

And, 'let's have a conversation about that'
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

I hate the use of get instead of have. E.g.Could I get a cappuccino, hamburger etc.
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I hate the use of get instead of have. E.g.Could I get a cappuccino, hamburger etc.
Couldn't agree more.
I always think that if I was behind the counter, I would say 'No, I will get it, you can have it'.
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Re: What sort of word is that?"

Another irritation is the way the young speak. "...try and...." should be "...try to..."

But worse is, why do they all seemingly want to sound like they have a speech impediment? Do they think it makes them appear "big"?

And "...I done, this, like, xxxx, like, innit."
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And can anyone tell me what "fast fashion" is? ... Trendy gear that comes and quickly goes I suppose.


To me fashion, nowadays, is something which appears to make people rich by designing clothes which no-one seems to wear. Maybe I'm too old as well
When did anyone last see a "clothes" shop?

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