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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

Hi Ross, I am waiting with bated breath for the dragonfly season to start! Should be soon? However I think there is little improvement for DIF even with Firmware 3. Which is better, but not that Eureka moment! Please do not attack me for for my following observations I am a newbie to everything oly my EM1/40-150pro combo still struggles with BIF let alone DIF. Shooting race cars planes etc is good. Therefore I am sure I will revert back to my ( camera 5yrs old lens over 10 yrs old designs) canon7d/300f4L lens combo for the DIF. I sincerely believe until oly finds a breakthrough with contrast tech, and insists on this tech, to the detriment of phase tech BIF and DIF will be difficult also and I am no expert here, focus points X types need to be used. Canon and Nikon are so far ahead in this field its like chalk and Cheese. I do want oly to succeed with the M4/3 system and I am investing a considerable amount in the system its a lovely light and convenient system, so let's hope it happens soon IMHO.
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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

Ross, thanks to your post I now reply last summer NAY! Autumn and not good light either ... I captured the most amazing images of Dragonflys with the ONE and the 60 macro and 75-300 lenses.

I sold my 70-300 back in E-5 days - as it "searched far too much" and I missed so many shots - Timmy P seemed to have mastered this lens, but it defeated me. Later I learned it was not me

I tend to use focus block of 9 for small insects and set f2 to magnify - and I have even got "Bees in Flight" ... ( it is a really quick method of getting the darned small insect without having to zoom out ) but getting a focus on it - I do the same with horses on the Gallops too then "gun it" with rapid fire

I would advise ALL to update to V3 of the firmware - it makes a heck of a difference








there are more Dragons by ONE in my Gallery uploaded Sept 2014 and I cannot find the thread I post the set in sorry ...
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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

Hi Chevvy, these are great shots, i have found that autumn is the best time to shoot dragons, as they tend to hover more than in the summer months. I have shot them in the autumn with my Sigma 500mm 4.5 whilst bored in a hide waiting for kingfishers etc.
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Hi Chevvy, these are great shots, i have found that autumn is the best time to shoot dragons, as they tend to hover more than in the summer months. I have shot them in the autumn with my Sigma 500mm 4.5 whilst bored in a hide waiting for kingfishers etc.
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Early (6am+) is best they are slower as they have dew on their wings or late afternoon (when they are heavier ; and tired and slower )

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Early (6am+) is best they are slower as they have dew on their wings or late afternoon (when they are heavier ; and tired and slower )

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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

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Early (6am+) is best they are slower as they have dew on their wings or late afternoon (when they are heavier ; and tired and slower )

Best of everything for you Dragons season
That sounds like dedication to me, especially the 6:00am bit!
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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

Because of their habit of hovering in predictable locations against a solid background, Dragonflies are in many respects easier to capture in flight than many birds. Their smaller size in the frame works against AF but their fairly static behaviour when hovering is a bonus as we don't have to bother with CAF just use SAF and "gun it" as Chevvy says. Erratic fast flying birds such as Martins and Swifts are still really only the province of modern DSLRs and I no longer carry my m4/3 longer lenses with me on birding trips, preferring to use the EM1 for any macro or landscape opportunities that arise and the Canon 7DII for birds. The Canon is superb for Dragons too but the EM1 does an excellent job as well if the right lens is used.

No one has mentioned the other DIF - Damselflies in flight, these rarely hover and although much slower flying than Dragons are very much smaller and need a correspondingly longer lens to even locate in the VF. I will be spending more times attempting to photograph these in flight this summer.

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Re: Advice on shooting dragonflies and other small fast moving objects

My 70-300 on m4/3 bodies is very slow to focus compared to the 75-300, but neither are fast enough for DiF shots IMHO.

I had a little success last year with manual focus, Dragonflies seem to patrol a fairly set route and positioning for a shot as the animal flies up wind and shooting as many frames a second as possible resulted in a few decent shots.
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