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Re: Moving from Windows to Mac

I think most email providers have the option to use an IMAP server. Just set up your email account pointing at the IMAP server instead of a POP on all your devices and they will all sync up accordingly.
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I think most email providers have the option to use an IMAP server. Just set up your email account pointing at the IMAP server instead of a POP on all your devices and they will all sync up accordingly.
Many do, but IMAP doesn't work anywhere near as well as Exchange.
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Many do, but IMAP doesn't work anywhere near as well as Exchange.
Certainly not all the functionality for sure. You pay your money etc. etc.
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Certainly not all the functionality for sure. You pay your money etc. etc.
I pay £30 a year to Microsoft for the exchange service, which I feel is good value considering the functionality offered. It isn't difficult to set up, but there is an expectation that you are reasonably computer literate.

Mailbox size is currently limited to 50 GB.

The exchange service is also available bundled with some Office 365 packages; which are now cross platform.

The MS service is available from other providers for a premium, but they will set it up for you.
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Re: Moving from Windows to Mac

Gmail will also be fine or a few of the other providers out there. I'm sure waiting an extra 2 mins for a refresh instead of a push worst case isn't going to cause a big issue if you don't need that feature and would rather pocket the money!
Perhaps Apple can help move your data over from the Windows to Mac laptop also- I'm not sure how far their handholding type service goes.
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I'm not sure how far their handholding type service goes.
Until they have you brainwashed it seems!
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I wouldn't know, but MS certainly need to offer a similar service to have a chance in retaining the consumer market share of that demographic who can afford to consider Apple products.
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It is quite easy to run Windows on your Mac as well using Parallels 10 so you can have your cake and eat it too, especially as some Windows software is not available for the Mac i.e. Pictures to EXE and Proshow Producer to name two.

http://www.parallels.com/uk/products/desktop/

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Conversely, there is no technical reason why the Mac OS should not run on (say) an HP, Dell or Sony machine, just as Windows will run on a Mac.

By why won't Apple allow this?
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Re: Moving from Windows to Mac

To ensure a consistent user experience. One of the challenges of the MS world was and may be still is that different makes do not always work the same way.

In the main Mac users do not have driver problems, (I have not had one in the last 9 years of Mac use. OK it limits the hardware I can put into the machine but I do not want to spend my time investigating driver issues.
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To ensure a consistent user experience. One of the challenges of the MS world was and may be still is that different makes do not always work the same way.

In the main Mac users do not have driver problems, (I have not had one in the last 9 years of Mac use. OK it limits the hardware I can put into the machine but I do not want to spend my time investigating driver issues.
I guess Windows strength is also its weakness; in that is has to support literally thousands, if not millions of hardware devices and combinations, whereas the Apple Mac system only has to support a handful.

That may also be why Apple now choses to remove USB and Ethernet sockets from their laptops, (requiring an expensive adaptor instead), so there is no direct connection between the Mac and peripherals.

Having said that, I have never experienced driver issues with my HP server and workstations, or with my Toshiba laptops; but then companies like HP and Toshiba probably put a lot of resources into providing drivers that are fully tested and certified.

I do like Apple equipment. It does exactly what is says on the box, but I struggle with the concept that you have to sign your life over to Apple by surrounding every Apple computer with expensive Apple peripherals for the things to work properly.

As an example, I rely on the inbuilt 4G broadband in my laptop, and would be lost without it. I was seriously looking at a MacBook Pro, until I was told that inbuilt 4G was not an option as Mac users have never asked for it, and that I would have to buy an iPhone or iPad with 4G and tether them to get online when travelling!

(I do have an iPad with 4G as it happens, but that is not the point.)

I also struggle with the attitude of some of the more evangelical Apple Acolytes. Twice I have been informed by total strangers on trains that my "laptop is crap" and that I should get a Mac! What is it about the Apple brand that makes users feel they have the right to make comments like that?
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Re: Moving from Windows to Mac

They have some bad memories of being Windows users.
Mac users have chosen to move away from Windows for reasons based on experience.
They made a decision, Windows users have in the main never made a decision, they were sat in front of one at school or work and know no other way of working.
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They have some bad memories of being Windows users.
Mac users have chosen to move away from Windows for reasons based on experience.
They made a decision, Windows users have in the main never made a decision, they were sat in front of one at school or work and know no other way of working.
What an ignorant attitude.

Whether any of that is true or not it still doesn't give Mac users the right to make unsolicited criticisms of the computers that total strangers choose to use.

Using that argument I could quite justifiably do exactly the same in a supermarket car park, (especially to drivers of ubiquitous German, French and Japanese marques), or at the local HiFi emporium for that matter; but I would never consider doing so because that would be incredibly rude, insulting and in some cases hurtful. It would also be asking for a thick lip!

For the record I use a Windows laptop because Apple doesn't support the programmes that I need to use, including Sage accounts and a variety of apps needed to extract data from spectrophotometers, goniophotometers, ultrasound gauges and other specialist instruments that I use in the course of my work.

When I have extracted that data I need to upload the reports to my OneDrive account or to Drop Box, and sent them by email; often using 4G; which again isn't supported by Apple.

So please don't suggest that I use Windows out of ignorance, or because I "was sat in front of one at school or work and know no other way of working."

(If you really want to know we used slide rules and Log tables when I was at school.)

And for what it's worth, our children were (to borrow your phraseology) 'sat in front of Macs' at Prep school. One has latterly chosen to use a MacBook Pro, Android phone and Windows desktop. The other chooses to use Windows exclusively.

If I may make one final observation; the written word is very important in my profession. Sadly I have found that the grammar emanating from Apple machines is often of a very poor standard, which may suggest that some Apple users are not quite as clever as they like to think.
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I guess Windows strength is also its weakness; in that is has to support literally thousands, if not millions of hardware devices and combinations, whereas the Apple Mac system only has to support a handful.

That may also be why Apple now choses to remove USB and Ethernet sockets from their laptops, (requiring an expensive adaptor instead), so there is no direct connection between the Mac and peripherals.
Gosh, I guess that's one way of solving any compatibility issue - if it's too difficult, don't support it! It's a bit like a car manufacturer proudly announcing that they've solved the problem of punctures in tyres by not fitting them!

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Gosh, I guess that's one way of solving any compatibility issue - if it's too difficult, don't support it! It's a bit like a car manufacturer proudly announcing that they've solved the problem of punctures in tyres by not fitting them!

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Spot on Jim. But I'm told Macs are very good for editing images of the King in his new suit of clothes!
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Re: Moving from Windows to Mac

Hardware manufacturers remove various ports for different reasons.

The Ethernet component itself takes up unnecessary space on the board for little relative use on a non professional Wintel laptop & Mac laptops. If you purchase most of the workstation class laptops, they will come with an Ethernet port for travelling people and Networks which require wired connections for security reasons and so on.

I'm fairly certain one can use a 4g dongle or access point on either a Windows device or Mac if you purchase the compatible model.

The USB 3 Type C in the the new Macbook could of been swapped to stop direct competition with the MBP. Prior to that the MBA was competing to the 13" MBP

Its not worth worrying about the weird reasons people brew up for one OS or the other although its entertaining to read!
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