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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

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I am waiting for it. Maybe in one day it will replace my E-5.

Except the new sensor, I do not see any reason to switch to m4/3 : no professional tele lenses, not so many macro lenses, very high prices for the lens and accesories.

Even If I pay a higher price for E-7, then I can buy very cheap used PRO lenses. At the end I will have a 4/3 combo wich destroys any m4/3 combo.

As an wildlife shooter, I am using now E-5, 70-300, 50-200, EC-20 and looking to buy Sigma 50-500, maybe 150 F/2.0.
Switching to E-M5 + 75-300 will be downgrade for me. No other telelenses to buy.
And E-M5 is still not good as E-5 for fast moving objects (by example BIFs).

In this moment M4/3 is not yet a real professional system. Maybe it will be in 3-5 years, if they start building professional lenses and cameras. Also prices has to be lowered a bit.
I very much agree with this, I can't see that Olympus will go totally m4/3 they have produced pro DSLRs for some while and when the other manufacturers are still turning out top pro DSLRs why would Olympus go down a different track? With the EVF as it is on the E-M5 (pretty poor in my opinion) it just isn't suitable for a high shutter rate on a fast moving subject - too easy to lose the subject from the field of view. I appreciate E-M5 enthusiasts wanting to assert that it is suitable for such subjects but when you've used the offerings of Nikon and Canon (plus others I'm sure) using PDAF, I can assure you that it doesn't compare. I have an E-M5 and it is a remarkable and useful tool I wouldn't be without but it can't do everything I want, especially in regard to the non-availability of PDAF, OVF and pro telephoto primes. So Olympus I am sure will be looking carefully at the market and come up with what we all want - and a DSLR must be on the cards!

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I am interested to know if you don't believe Olympus will deliver a Four Thirds user solution (a bigger camera that will work properly with Four Thirds lenses) at all
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I am convinced that Olympus have something close to production which will enable regular 4/3 lenses to be used to their full potential.

I am also convinced that this solution will not involve mirrors. (smoke, maybe!)

How they intend to achieve this, I don't know. But I'm sure they can and will.
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I am convinced that Olympus have something close to production which will enable regular 4/3 lenses to be used to their full potential.

I am also convinced that this solution will not involve mirrors. (smoke, maybe!)

How they intend to achieve this, I don't know. But I'm sure they can and will.

ME TOO Stephen

I "feel" that Oly have taken some "significant slices" of the Camera Market by STORM with the OM-D E-5.

I believe their strategy, to capitalise on the "heart and past" of the old OM Market has worked wonders with this "retro style but Highest Tech" model, for Olympus

... and I do not know that *anikon, have such, to capitalise on ?

I fear *anikon - AS Honda in the Motorbikes market - Entered quite late and they do not have the longevity

of Product/Activity long time loyalty & LURVE of the "Vintage*" set (aka Cotton Buds; Grey £'s ; Saga Spenders etc.,)


The Markets BUY RETRO because it MAKES them Feel YOUNG AGAIN ... There is a certain STYLE in Vintage and RETRO that new Products just do not have ...


and THIS* ALONE, is a truly MASSIVE market to tap. We have the Wealthiest over 55's ever - who often inherit a considerable amount of funds too - who not have a second thought on purchasing the "latest and best camera". We also have a great residual market (well two, here and eBay) apart from Local camera clubs and many who, can afford to "just hand the old Kit down" to their children and grandchildren.

Not only this, but the Elders in some hobbies, do actually INFLUENECE the younger Market - so here we have a "TOP DOWN and BOTTOM UP" Strategy for business development







I don't know the true % of the Market which Oly enjoyed with the OM range - but I bet it was very significant.

and I believe that an E-7 ??? will come out soon compatible with m4/3rds and 4/3rds - I just so hope that FOCUS TRACKING for BIRDS is there as IT CAN AND SHOULD BE ... because that will "drag along those "Loyal Markets" for the future. Olympus has never been "in it for the very short haul" aka "popping a model a week or month" ... It is a more tha Rolls Royce Design and Development strategy

In Imaging for a massive variety of markets Olympus are light years ahead ... and that has to come down to camera size

Long Live Oly and I am sorry if I was looking at the Nikon D7100 last night and the Canon ...

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[SIZE="4"]Long Live Oly and I am sorry if I was looking at the Nikon D7100 last night and the Canon ...


I'm one of the over 55s that can't really just spend what I want (I spend my wife's money instead well, not really ), but does it make me feel young again?.... Not really. It's just to be able to play with some of the toys the other boys (& girls) are playing with. It is fun to have something of the latest to enjoy!

As far as a replacement to the E5 goes, I very much doubt I would be buying it as I feel I need a lighter kit in the M4/3's, but if Olympus are going to continue with a DSLR, I can't see it being much of a seller now unless there was a resurgence with another lesser model (that could be SLT perhaps) & something new in the 4/3's lenses too (to be convincing it is continuing with 4/3's), but it is fun to speculate.
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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

Realistically, I doubt the E-7 will be much more than an warmed over E-3/E-5. I think we will see the Sony sensor in it and the 5 axis image stabilization. I would also expect the video to be improved to the level of the current generation of m4/3's cameras. I believe at one time Olympus did say that m4/3 R&D would be used in new 4/3's cameras which is consistent with my expectations.

A major body redesign, significant improvements in the autofocus capabilities or a new 4/3 lens would indicate to me that Olympus would be trying to relaunch the 4/3 system. I really don't expect it, however.

Nonetheless, an E-7 would be very welcomed, and if nothing else would drive down the costs of used and refurbished E-3/E-5 cameras. And I would still be able to use my HG lenses.
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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

Resurrect the E-1, cram in the E-3/5 viewfinder and the E-M5 sensor and rework the sensor for a base ISO of 25.

Just give me a basic camera that will take a few knocks and survive.
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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

I'm more and more tempted to go u4/3... but I am not in any real hurry at the moment!
I would like to see the 4/3 format continue to be developed, but a completely new camera?

I half expect a re-worked E-5, better sensor, upgraded electronics and if lucky a new lens or two... All other accessories for the E-5 (battery grip etc.) to fit the "new" E-6 (why not...does it have to be called the E-7?).

Commercially does it make sense to design a new camera from the body up???

I would like to think so, but I can't see it happening with the E-Series.

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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

I've always thought that the E-3/5 body was too much of a Dreadnought, a well made one mind you
If they are rehashing the old mirrorbox for the latest incarnation I would suggest they should have been eyeing the superbly proportioned and sized Pentax K-7, 5, 5II body as a size/quality reference/guideline.
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... to fit the "new" E-6 (why not...does it have to be called the E-7?).

Commercially does it make sense to design a new camera from the body up???

We have the DSLR biggies E-1 and E-3 and E-5 ... the even numbers are for the 410 and 420 and the 510 and 520 and the 610 and 610 - just as BMW have the 3 series, the 5 series and the 7 series
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the "new" E-6 (why not...does it have to be called the E-7?).
Because 6 is a very unlucky number in Japanese culture and would guarantee failure.
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Because 6 is a very unlucky number in Japanese culture and would guarantee failure.
Yeah 666 is the Devils number


ahhh BUT 8 is a very lucky number ...
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Well I knew about 4 and 9 but not 6...
6 is connected to wealth in Chinese though...

but i was just saying... why not 6 ...
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Re: E7 and E-M7 rumours

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Just as BMW have the 3 series, the 5 series and the 7 series
oh... and I do recall a BMW 6 Series

... and try as i might... I can't find anywhere that say's 6 is unlucky in Japan.

I'm sure they will NOT call it an E-6, but wow.... what a topic
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