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View Poll Results: Select the Newspapers you read the most max 3
Daily Mail 2 6.25%
Daily Mirror 1 3.13%
Daily Express 0 0%
The Guardian 12 37.50%
Daily Telegraph 5 15.63%
The Sun 0 0%
The Independent 8 25.00%
The Times 4 12.50%
Pravda 2 6.25%
None of The Above 12 37.50%
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You believe Carole Cadwalladr

She has made three corrections to her story on Brexit data breach and counting.
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Guardian most days, newpaper very rarely on Sunday, but picked up the Observer today when I went out to get a few bits
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You believe Carole Cadwalladr

She has made three corrections to her story on Brexit data breach and counting.
She got an award for her journalism recently:

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/jou...-cadwalladr-2/

".... deserves high praise for the quality of her research"

I don't know how many Daily Mail journalists were shortlisted, I don't recognise any of the names. Perhaps you can check.

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At least the Mail doesn't employ a notorious serial liar to write for them, unlike the Telegraph. Boris Johnson - for whom lying is part of his stock in trade.

A couple of years ago Mathew Parris wrote an excoriating article in The Times about Boris Johnson. Here's an excerpt quoted by The Guardian (the original is behind a Times paywall):

Parris, a former aide to Margaret Thatcher, denounced Johnson for alleged dishonesty, vacuity, sexual impropriety and veiled homophobia.

“Somebody has to call a halt to the gathering pretence that if only you’re sufficiently comical in politics you can laugh everything off,” he wrote.

“Incompetence is not funny. Policy vacuum is not funny. A careless disregard for the truth is not funny. Advising old mates planning to beat someone up is not funny. Abortions and gagging orders are not funny. Creeping ambition in a jester’s cap is not funny. Vacuity posing as merriment, cynicism posing as savviness, a wink and a smile covering for betrayal … these things are not funny.”

Parris went on to detail Johnson’s sexual adventures and broken promises, as well as his dismissal from the Times as a correspondent for allegedly making up quotes.

He described the mayor as a “lacklustre” politician, and claims that Johnson was unable to defend his recent claims about the European Union in front of the Treasury select committee.

Referring to that performance, he wrote: “Watch a portrait in miniature of Johnson the politician: underprepared, jolly, sly, dishonest and unapologetic but (and this is the worrying part) horrifyingly vulnerable.

Parris added: “But there’s a pattern to Boris’s life, and it isn’t the lust for office, or for applause, or for susceptible women, that mark out this pattern in red warning ink. It’s the casual dishonesty, the cruelty, the betrayal; and, beneath the betrayal, the emptiness of real ambition: the ambition to do anything useful with office once it is attained.”

And this vile person is poising himself to make a leadership bid when TM goes!

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Johnson is a complete tosser, the Dail Mail is a vile rag. Sorted!
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Agreed; but neither Boris Johnson or the Daily Mail are alone in their opprobrium.

These comments would have much more validity if members here were to cast the net a little wider than the Conservative party and the gutter press when venting their vitriolic opinions.

Just a few days ago a member here was highly critical of comments made about Dianne Abbott on the grounds that she has Type 2 Diabetes.

Once again, she is not alone. Teresa May has type 1 Diabetes, but I don't see anyone rushing to her defence.

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But...but...but.... Corbyn might be a nice, principled man but he couldn’t even lead the horse to the water. Liberals? Who? UKIP?.... ‘nuff said. If any other politician was worth their salt they’d be helping to sort the mess that is Brexit not scoring petty political points.
I’ve said it before ( sorry Rebecca!) but we really do get the politicians we deserve. If the Sun is the best selling newspaper then god help us.
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But...but...but.... Corbyn might be a nice, principled man but he couldn’t even lead the horse to the water. Liberals? Who? UKIP?.... ‘nuff said. If any other politician was worth their salt they’d be helping to sort the mess that is Brexit not scoring petty political points.
I’ve said it before ( sorry Rebecca!) but we really do get the politicians we deserve. If the Sun is the best selling newspaper then god help us.
I agree. Right now Labour and the SNP are more interested in forcing a General Election than trying to resolve the Brexit issue in the best interests of the country. Likewise some members of the Conservative party are more interested in mounting a leadership challenge whilst seemingly oblivious to the difficulty of the PM's job right now, and the fact that it is a poisoned chalice.

But where was Jeremy Corbyn in the run up to the Referendum? He has been openly hostile about the EU and has made no secret of the fact that he would rather the UK be out than in. Other Labour MP's have been equally critical of the EU in the past including the late Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn; but I have yet to see the same sort of vitriol aimed at them by certain members of this forum as Boris and Theresa et al.
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Rebecca seems to be doing her best to prevent needles being stuck in the same groove

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If the Sun is the best selling newspaper then god help us.
To be fair though, how many people buy The Sun to read the news?

The Sun is no more a newspaper than Greggs is a baker's shop nowadays. The Sun is more about entertainment with a bit of scandal and titillation thrown in. (Do they still have Page Three?)

You could make the same argument about people watching Coronation Street or Brookside to keep up to date with current affairs. Or if you want a really unbiased insight into the running of the NHS you could watch Casualty.

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that most people buy 'newspapers' to read what they want to hear rather than hard, clinical facts. Members here are justifiably critical of the Mail, Express and Torygraph, but the Mirror and Grauniad are just as biased in the opposite direction, if not more.
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The majority of our MP's from all parties are "jobs worths" riding the politics gravy train.
If we are to survive as a democratic country we need better, but it is not looking good right now.
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There was a 'sea of Suns' at tea break on the workshop floor in Rolls-Royce where I worked!

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And therefore your point is ? Please expand.
Should they have all been reading the Guardian ?
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You can't beat The Beano.

And, Gregg's may not be a traditional baker but.... their steak slices are yummy

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