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What, traffic cameras? Perhaps have microphones on them?

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Apparently these are a thing now. Not sure if our in the wild though.
It doesnít need a microphone, just need a copper to take a look at the **** end of the Impreza, see a modified exhaust, confirmed with a listen, and construction and use regs are contravened, insurance invalid and car could be crushed!

Wonít happen but Iíd be so happy if it was. These utter noisy tw@s need to stop their anti social behaviour.
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What, traffic cameras? Perhaps have microphones on them?

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Round our way they park up a van in a lay by, open a hatch and snap away. Not sure how many fixed cameras even work nowadays.
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Re: Car modifications - is it or isn't it?

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What, traffic cameras? Perhaps have microphones on them?

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Strangely enough, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that just that idea was proposed for exactly the same reason, to catch very noisy vehicles on the cameras.

Wish I knew where i saw it ..... possibly the BBC news website but can't be sure.
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Re: Car modifications - is it or isn't it?

The sad reality is that the Insurance companies are perfectly happy to take your money because you sign to confirm the vehicle has been not modified in any way. Not wanting to upset the driving fraternity more than they already do, they won't bat an eyelid unless there is a fatality or serious injury involved. If that occurs, then it will no doubt be a very different matter and the vehicle will be scrutinised by the Police and forensics, a full report available to the insurers, and the driver up the creek if it has been modified.

The usual application form only asks if the vehicle has been modified, it doesn't expand on what is considered a modification. If the insurance companies started to refuse cover or require an increased premium for drivers using a modified exhaust or other mods. all it would achieve would be to increase the number of uninsured drivers already polluting the planet by drawing breath.


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Re: Car modifications - is it or isn't it?

We have a neighbourhood information email network. Through that, I was able to opt for local police alerts.

We were informed that there would soon be local speed checks and to submit details of known problems. I said that on many afternoons, close to or during the school run for the nearby school, a motorcycle is driven at very high revs and high sped (30 limit), such that it is just a blur as it passes our drive.

I was told that if the only nuisance was the noise they would do nothing about it.

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We have a neighbourhood information email network. Through that, I was able to opt for local police alerts.

We were informed that there would soon be local speed checks and to submit details of known problems. I said that on many afternoons, close to or during the school run for the nearby school, a motorcycle is driven at very high revs and high sped (30 limit), such that it is just a blur as it passes our drive.

I was told that if the only nuisance was the noise they would do nothing about it.

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Seriously? Donít these modern plods have a quota anymore? Bl00dy hospitals can have targets yet where public nuisance is concerned, nothing. Makes your (my!) blood boil.
Didnít the copper accept that the noise, high revs and a 30 limit might indicate some level of illegality??
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Apparently these are a thing now. Not sure if our in the wild though.
It doesnít need a microphone, just need a copper to take a look at the **** end of the Impreza, see a modified exhaust, confirmed with a listen, and construction and use regs are contravened, insurance invalid and car could be crushed!

Wonít happen but Iíd be so happy if it was. These utter noisy tw@s need to stop their anti social behaviour.
Wasn't it Clarkson who said 'anywhere in he world, the sound of an approaching flat four engine heralds the arrival of a complete and utter moron'
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Round our way they park up a van in a lay by, open a hatch and snap away. Not sure how many fixed cameras even work nowadays.
Not many. Most but not all were decommissioned by David Cameron's government shortly after coming to power. They were very expensive to run apparently (the camera bit cost £20,000 + and could only fire off 72 exposures) and didn't really work so they were replaced by mobile speed cameras.

Ultimately it is down to the local authority I believe. There are some cities, notably Plymouth, which still has a number of working fixed cameras but most now are just empty boxes, with the flash still working. Many of the boxes are now coming up to thirty years old and as I understand it, they have to be removed or replaced after that time.

Don't forget there are now hundreds of fixed speed cameras on [not very] Smart Motorways now, which are linked to the variable speed limit signs.
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...or the police perhaps?
Oh "police" - I'd forgotten about them! Are they still 'a thing' then?

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Re: Car modifications - is it or isn't it?

Police are supposed to deal with antisocial behaviour but "nuisance" such as frequent, smoky bonfires and regular loud noise, is local authority territory.

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Don't forget there are now hundreds of fixed speed cameras on [not very] Smart Motorways now, which are linked to the variable speed limit signs.
Smart? Ha ha!
On the odd occasion we use the M25 Iím always amazed by the number of drivers that seem to totally ignore the variable limit and the obvious camera gantries. Do they think they are immune of something? Whatís that about?
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Apparently yes, they are the people who will give you a crime number for your insurance company. I think that their only remit nowadays. H&S prevent them leaving their offices or cars I assume.
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I haven't' seen a proper Traffic Cop for a while. Most of them were replaced by cameras and 'Highways Officers' who are not police.

It might have something to do with the appalling behaviour on our roads nowadays. Only this morning there was a report on the BBC News about the number of drivers witnessing violent behaviour on the road.
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Police are supposed to deal with antisocial behaviour but "nuisance" such as frequent, smoky bonfires and regular loud noise, is local authority territory.

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The point about the cars is that they are almost certainly breaking the law, and where thereís. Loud exhaust there is likely lighting, suspension and engine mods, which only compound the issue. All the fuss about stickers is utterly ridiculous when put in context of far more likely insurance / law transgressions.
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Smart? Ha ha!
On the odd occasion we use the M25 Iím always amazed by the number of drivers that seem to totally ignore the variable limit and the obvious camera gantries. Do they think they are immune of something? Whatís that about?
If you have no tax, insurance MOT or licence to worry about then you can ignore the cameras. Its not as if there are any traffic police around to pull you over.

On the other hand, they might be American diplomats exercising their 'Diplomatic Immunity', although presumably they would be driving the wrong way.
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