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Branch removal

I keep pecking away at this but I'm beginning to feel less is more. Is this shot better with the branch removed and should I try a tad more as to my eyes there is still a very faint shadow where I have removed it. I am worried now that with more treatment I will lose some detail.


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Re: Branch removal

I think you have done a pretty good job there and would be very happy with that myself. One thing that does look slightly odd is the branch with an elbow forming a triangle in the back/foreground, I would be tempted to remove one of the sides on the left to make it look more natural?
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Re: Branch removal

Looks a pretty good job to me, OM. If you had not mentioned it I'm sure none would be any the wiser. As it is I can see no shadow - "a blind man would be pleased to see it" .
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Re: Branch removal

Looks pretty good, had I not known that the branch had been there I would have been none the wiser. The process does seemed to I have increased noise though.

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Re: Branch removal

I think it's a case of you know it was there so you can see the shadow. It is a good result but I do agree with Iain about the triangle of the branch.

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Re: Branch removal

Jeremy, to my eyes, the red on the head in the removed branch has lost some of its fine glow captured in the one with the branch.

the branch is a natural part of this woodland shot and in my eyes, adds to the depth of the image captured. Thus I prefer the one with the branch in if thats any help
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Re: Branch removal

Looks a good job but agree would take out one or both bits of the triangle?
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Re: Branch removal

What I wouold do, Ed, is only clone out the branch across the bird itself. Then it would look natural, as if the branch went behind it.
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Re: Branch removal

Ian, Andy, Ed
Thanks guys. Yes, the triangle of the branch is not natural. It was just an convenient way to do less work by turning two "cut" branches into one and avoid leaving loose ends.

Keith,
Good idea on managing the branch. Thanks.

Mark,
Thank you.

David,
Good observation on the noise; I had not spotted this. It was probably the algorithm and settings when saving the jpeg from within PaintShop. I could solve this by saving as a bmp and/or merging the result back with the original. Thanks.

Chevvy,
I did indeed ask if the branch removal helped the picture, after all the artistic act is part of LFI and not just the technical execution of something. When I finally manage a shot like this that I am pleased about I do wonder if there is some improvement that can be made just in case I ever decide to submit a picture to the Olympus magazine or one of these mythical gallery events. As for the slightly muted red tones, that again is probably to do with the algorithm and settings for saving the processed shot. I must watch out for things like this in the future. Thank you.
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Re: Branch removal

Splendid capture and edit... I think you have done a very very good job with the edit and removal of the branch.

I am kind of with Chevvy that I am not convinced the removal of the branch absolutely improves the image, and the image has a natural look about it either way.

If the goal is to remove the branch, I would say you have done the job well, if you require confirmation on an excellent capture.. you have my admiration, as I can hear the birds in the woodland near me but have yet to spot them.

Just for example only, some 3 years ago a very talented forum member removed this fence.. I think he used frequency as a means to remove the fence



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...I am kind of with Chevvy that I am not convinced the removal of the branch absolutely improves the image, and the image has a natural look about it either way.
Thank you for your kind words on my image and I welcome all opinions on the whether such image manipulation improves the shot (as I'm not sure either).
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Very good job for me
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I think you have done a pretty good job there and would be very happy with that myself. One thing that does look slightly odd is the branch with an elbow forming a triangle in the back/foreground, I would be tempted to remove one of the sides on the left to make it look more natural?
I agree with Iain, a pretty good job indeed, just clone out the 'elbow branch' and if it were mine I would be very happy with the outcome.

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