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Tamar Bridges

Spent an hour last night testing out my new micro 9-18mm on the bridges over the Tamar.

1. As often happens, the last shot of the night turned out to be my favourite!


2. I liked the lights from the train on this one... plus listening to the live band in the Union pub made a welcome break during the minute long exposures!


3. Might have another go at this one later as the stitching didn't work that well.
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Re: Tamar Bridges

They are quite good but I find the lights very distracting Tim.
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Re: Tamar Bridges

i'm the opposite, i like the lights
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Re: Tamar Bridges

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They are quite good but I find the lights very distracting Tim.
Thanks for the feedback, is it just the size that's bothering you?

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i'm the opposite, i like the lights
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Re: Tamar Bridges

As I found out earlier this year, night photography is great fun, but not easy. I started my evening with looooong exposures, but the best shots were the last few taken at around 2 secs.
You have got an excellent start with these. Did you use the shutter delay? I found it made a lot of difference in the sharpness.
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Re: Tamar Bridges

I think these are really good. The subject is a great choice with plenty to look at in the foreground, distance and the middle.

I really like the second, the lead in lines of the steps work really well which take you to the bridge and across the water.

I've enjoyed looking at these, thanks for sharing.
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As I found out earlier this year, night photography is great fun, but not easy. I started my evening with looooong exposures, but the best shots were the last few taken at around 2 secs.
You have got an excellent start with these.
Out of interest, what ISO were you using to get 2 sec shutter speed? I tried with shorter speeds the previous night but the images were too dark and noisy... these are all 60 seconds, F8, ISO 200.

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Did you use the shutter delay? I found it made a lot of difference in the sharpness.
Indeed I did, I used the shutter shock option from the menu... the static items are nice and sharp when viewed at 100%

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I think these are really good. The subject is a great choice with plenty to look at in the foreground, distance and the middle.

I really like the second, the lead in lines of the steps work really well which take you to the bridge and across the water.

I've enjoyed looking at these, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Tim! Glad you liked the lead in lines, that's what I was thinking when I lined it up I would have preferred to have included a bit more of them but there is a street light just off to the side which was causing some flare (you can see it a little in that shot as it is).
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Re: Tamar Bridges

[QUOTE=timg;251851]Out of interest, what ISO were you using to get 2 sec shutter speed? I tried with shorter speeds the previous night but the images were too dark and noisy... these are all 60 seconds, F8, ISO 200.

I used ISO 100 but only f2.8, this really surprised me, that it worked at all, but it did as you can see from the exif.

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I used ISO 100 but only f2.8, this really surprised me, that it worked at all, but it did as you can see from the exif.
Bit hard to tell from the image at that size, but how much is in focus? Surely at 2.8 it's going to be a bit soft on one side of the river or the other? Can you remember what you focussed on?

With the 9-18 it starts at f4 and you really need to drop it down a couple of steps to get the corners sharp anyway...
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Bit hard to tell from the image at that size, but how much is in focus? Surely at 2.8 it's going to be a bit soft on one side of the river or the other? Can you remember what you focussed on?

With the 9-18 it starts at f4 and you really need to drop it down a couple of steps to get the corners sharp anyway...
I focused on the boat in the foreground. I am no tech expert, but I do wonder if longer exposures affect DoF ? On the full size image, the cars on the Eye are in focus. As I said, there is no way this should work, but somehow it does. I used the 14-54 f2.8 MK1 lens on my E-1.
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I focused on the boat in the foreground. I am no tech expert, but I do wonder if longer exposures affect DoF ? On the full size image, the cars on the Eye are in focus. As I said, there is no way this should work, but somehow it does. I used the 14-54 f2.8 MK1 lens on my E-1.
Length of exposure shouldn't affect DOF, only the aperture... I think the E1 has a bit of a gentler roll off on the highlights over the EP3 anyway, plus the lower resolution means focus is a little more forgiving.

I might have a play with a DOF calculator later and see how it stacks up...
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I will be very interested in your results, been puzzling me since I took the image.
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Thanks for the feedback, is it just the size that's bothering you?
The brightness of them is very distracting from the subject IMO.
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The brightness of them is very distracting from the subject IMO.
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I will be very interested in your results, been puzzling me since I took the image.
Using Google maps I estimated you were about 60 meters from the boat and 350 meters from the Eye... I plugged that plus 14mm, f2.8 into the DOF calculator:

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

That says everything from 4.29m to infinity should be in focus... so there you have it!
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