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Old 17th September 2009
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Wreckage..

A sad sight, the skeleton of the once thrieving West Pier, but now a very photogenic subject, to be found in Brighton, Sussex.

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Re: Wreckage..

I really really really like this - and the mad use of F22 is forgiven completely!

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Re: Wreckage..

I suspect f22 was needed to get a slow enough shutter speed to blur the water and clouds. It's certainly not recommended because of difraction degrading the image, but in practice I find it's not nearly as bad as you might think.

The slow shutter speed was the master stroke ion this image. As well as a slightly surreal look, it has imparted a feeling of peace, calm and tranquility to the tortured ruins of the old pier. A subject of desolation and despair has become a thing of beauty. A photograph has become a work of art.

I adore this image!
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Re: Wreckage..

got that John, but Neil has a fair supply of NDs and I suspect that dof was also a factor given subject and framing even at 14mm.
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Re: Wreckage..

Cracking shot Neil, really good. I am after a ND110 myself if you hear of one going?

I love these long exposure daylight shots; they're different, unique and very interesting - casting new insight on subjects.
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Re: Wreckage..

Well, I don't profess to understand all the technical chat before about how you achieved this picture but I lived in Brighton for over 45 years and enjoyed many a visit to this pier as a young boy (when it was still standing!) but I never remember it looking this good !!

Fantastic image
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Re: Wreckage..

Well it's a great picture - only peeping at pixels will tell if f22 has compromised the sharpness, and personally I doubt if it will to any noticeable degree.

Compositionally I wonder if shooting straight has removed some evidence of the length - perhaps a very slight angle might have helped - but then it would have been a different photograph.

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Re: Wreckage..

Wow, great image. I really like the tone of the water using F22, I learn something new everyday. I'm not familiar with the pier, it looks like much more than just a pier. Did it have a restuarant or other famous buildings on it?
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Re: Wreckage..

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Wow, great image. I really like the tone of the water using F22, I learn something new everyday. I'm not familiar with the pier, it looks like much more than just a pier. Did it have a restuarant or other famous buildings on it?
Hi Danny,

For you, and any other overseas members unfamiliar with the pier, here's a link to how it used to look http://photos.igougo.com/images/p731...-West_Pier.jpg

And here's the fire that destroyed it http://www.solarnavigator.net/geogra...rning_down.jpg
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Re: Wreckage..

Carefully avoiding the word Stunning* - I would describe it as a Truly Excellent Picture!

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*only because it didn't actually cause me unconciousness :-)
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Re: Wreckage..

I think its all been said, fantastic picture and well excecuted.
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Re: Wreckage..

Thanks all for the positive feedback.

Firstly to highlight that the photo was taken with that E30!

I used my old mate the B&W 110 ND filter (no surprises there then!)

F22 was used for 2 reasons 1/ I wanted a complete front to back ‘in focus’ shot and 2/ using M mode f22 gave me a 40 sec exposure which is the minimum setting I prefer when trying for the effect of smooth water.

I was really looking for a low perspective to show the ironwork in all its glory, this was achieved with the help of my Benbo Trekker tripod sitting very low, almost on the stones.

I spent a couple of hours taking several shots at differing angles so I do have shots showing the length of the pier as well, I may post one or two of these when I’ve had the time to pp them.

Thanks again for taking an interest.
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Re: Wreckage..

I like the composition, the subtle colours (don't put it in mono!), and the long exposure.
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