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Looking for improvement This is the e-group critique board. If you post a picture here it will be assumed that you are looking for comprehensive technical feedback - both good and bad, but always respectful. Only post pictures here if you can deal with potentially negative constructive criticism. Anyone is qualified to comment and post feedback, and everyone is encouraged to do so. NB: "Looking for Improvement" is the place to post any pictures you would like advice on improving, no matter how bad you might think they are.

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Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Just back from 2 weeks cruising around between Bodrum and Fethiye in Turkey.

Despite a total disaster which left a lens back behind at home I actually ended up enjoying the challenge of only having 2 lenses to use (7-14 and new 40-150) and am looking forward to a few weeks working through the output.

However I thought I would share this image which represented the beauty of the area to the South - taken early morning from our anchorage. E3/40-150.

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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Wow! Incredible picture... Can you post a big version in a gallery??

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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

really like this image .got any more?
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

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Wow! Incredible picture... Can you post a big version in a gallery??

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Thanks for the kind words. I have uploaded a large version to here

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showph.../size/big/cat/
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Amazing quality of light with those receding, pastel tones. I love it!
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

That is some photograph

Similar photographs taken by landscape photographer Guy Edwardes sprung to mind when I saw this shot; this is equally as good if not better. It could almost be a watercolour painting.

Love it.

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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Just adding....

I think that photograph could earn a lot of money, certainly very sellable.

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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

To anyone reading - do yourself a favour and look at the full sized one - it's a stunner !

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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

A cracking shot.

Being a newbie could someone explain how the blue affect is achieved ?

Would it be processing or some kind of filter OR just very clever photography
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

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A cracking shot.

Being a newbie could someone explain how the blue affect is achieved ?

Would it be processing or some kind of filter OR just very clever photography
Despite the muted pink glow eminating from behind the mountains and starting to infuse the skyline in the picture, the sun had not yet risen. Therefore, the majority of light falling on the scene was reflected from the cold, blue sky overhead, hence the strong blue cast. The effect is accentuated by the mist in the atmosphere that causes the tones of the mountains to receed as they become further away from the camera, making the blue of the nearest hills appear even stronger to the eye.

No filter was needed to achieve this effect, although it's possible that photo owl may have used a pale blue correction filter or tweeked the white balance a little just to exaggerate the effect. The skill of the photographer in this instance was in getting up early to be there and recognising the very special quality of light that was available due to the remarkable natural conditions.
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Despite the muted pink glow eminating from behind the mountains and starting to infuse the skyline in the picture, the sun had not yet risen. Therefore, the majority of light falling on the scene was reflected from the cold, blue sky overhead, hence the strong blue cast. The effect is accentuated by the mist in the atmosphere that causes the tones of the mountains to receed as they become further away from the camera, making the blue of the nearest hills appear even stronger to the eye.

No filter was needed to achieve this effect, although it's possible that photo owl may have used a pale blue correction filter or tweeked the white balance a little just to exaggerate the effect. The skill of the photographer in this instance was in getting up early to be there and recognising the very special quality of light that was available due to the remarkable natural conditions.
An excellent explanation thank you
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

thank you all for you all for your kind words - first time I have posted an image to this particular section!

apart from the 'being there' element I used a CP filter when taking the shot to try and cut through the haze enough to give some definition to the elements. There was little in the raw conversion, and I think the key photoshop stage was in using an overlay layer to bring up what was actually there rather than a saturation boost or similar. the rest was down to the E3 and that delicious little 'kit' lens.

as for the commercial possibilities - I wouldn't know where to start. However, paraphrasing a tv advert, it will be priceless on the wall as a constant reminder of the trip; and it's calmness lends itself well to this application.
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Superb shot - definitely a potential "earner"!
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Re: Dawn over the Gulf of Gocek

Well well....interesting to see the people here that approve of this image. Some say it is an "earner" Some speak about it as an image to end all others. No doubt it is a lovely picture postcard job that serves purpose but is it really a good pic?

A trained and informative eye will quickly see the false colour applied here over the range of the image. There is no key element either drawing the eye in. The two mountains in the foreground are in stark contrast to the confused background. Nothing is that blue not in any light. If your camera recorded that then it is faulty. But you have informed the bench that you used a CP filter and layers.....which is poles apart from Zuikos rather over elaborate explanation of things. So what is really going on here.??

I think the truth is that if you stripped away the false colour you would end up with a pretty ordinary picture. You did well for being there at the early morning light but you tried to capture something that did not really exist. Adding things in photoshop is a great way of improving things but just like taking a picture the skill is needed in the first place if you are to venture along this route.

So a nice try, and no doubt will appeal to some. For most however it looks like a photoshop mishmash and does not hit the spot.
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