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Wow beautiful shot. The B&W really makes it dramatic. Beautiful
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Re: Stairway to Heaven

Nice image and concept.

Couple of points, I suspect this was shot from fairly close with the lens angled steeply up, as a result the perspective is quite skewed as you go further up the picture. I'd be inclined to pull the perspective into better shape in pp - or to have shot flatter from further away using the longer end of the lens.

On my screen I think it is a little too dark. Again in PP I'd use levels to slightly compress the range and lighten the mid point.

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Re: Stairway to Heaven

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Nice image and concept.

Couple of points, I suspect this was shot from fairly close with the lens angled steeply up, as a result the perspective is quite skewed as you go further up the picture. I'd be inclined to pull the perspective into better shape in pp - or to have shot flatter from further away using the longer end of the lens.

On my screen I think it is a little too dark. Again in PP I'd use levels to slightly compress the range and lighten the mid point. Nick

The deliberately skewed camera angle in this instance is intended to create visual tension with straight lines diagonally emphasised towards a heavenly perspective!

Nevertheless, your points are well taken and much appreciated, Nick.
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Wow beautiful shot. The B&W really makes it dramatic. Beautiful
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I understand what you are saying Mark, and I like the black & white, but would prefer that steeple straighter.
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Re: Stairway to Heaven

I wonder if the rays of light would have more impact if the spire was completely vertical? Did you take any more from different angles?

I love the processing on this - perhaps a little bit dark, but I think that adds, rather than detracts from the image. It almost has a 3D effect.

Sorry that isn't very constructive!

Nice shot Nick!

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I understand what you are saying Mark, and I like the black & white, but would prefer that steeple straighter.
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I wonder if the rays of light would have more impact if the spire was completely vertical? Did you take amy more from different angles?
I love the processing on this - perhaps a little bit dark, but I think that adds, rather than detracts from the image. It almost has a 3D effect.
Sorry that isn't very constructive! Nice shot Nick! Janet
There seems to be a general agreement that the spire would look better vertical. As an HDR I played with the rotation of the church against the sky and set it where it worked best for me. I concede that another position may work better for most viewers.
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I think the angle of the spire vs the sky is spot on, but the lens has obviously distorted it as it skews away from the building - I think if it was straightened in that respect it would be perfect, Everything else is spot on!

If you can't get rid of the curve completely, maybe work with it and try a slightly fishe eye effect?
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I think the angle of the spire vs the sky is spot on, but the lens has obviously distorted it as it skews away from the building - I think if it was straightened in that respect it would be perfect, Everything else is spot on!

If you can't get rid of the curve completely, maybe work with it and try a slightly fishe eye effect?
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Re: Stairway to Heaven

I'll offer a different opinion.

I like the first one better. Much more drama in the leaning spire. The straight one in the second doesn't give the same stretch towards the sky, and is too ordinary in my taste. The lines in the first version look "stronger" and pull together towards the sky. I'm very fond of diagonals, and this works well for me.

Processing looks good on my screen.
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I'll offer a different opinion.

I like the first one better. Much more drama in the leaning spire. The straight one in the second doesn't give the same stretch towards the sky, and is too ordinary in my taste. The lines in the first version look "stronger" and pull together towards the sky. I'm very fond of diagonals, and this works well for me.

Processing looks good on my screen.
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Re: Stairway to Heaven

Now I've seen the straight image, I have to say that I prefer the first. I thought it would work better straight, but it's turned a rather dramatic image into something more mundane.

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Re: Stairway to Heaven

Thanks Janet. I am aware that a Northwest camera angle isn't everyone's bag. I use it sometimes to create visual tension, or drama as Cathrine puts it.
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