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When I am out in the wilds of County Durham or Northumberland (my favourite county), or trekking along the old Stainmore Line taking photographs the very last thing on my mind is politics; apart from perhaps dear old Dr Beeching!
I believe the Stainmore line closed in 1962, before the good Doctor wielded his axe . If only Belah Viaduct was still there ...
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Well that is an interesting viewpoint. However, whatever one's personal views I would have thought that a journalist's first duty is to present a balanced view, just as an expert witnesses' duty is to help the Court come to a just decision and not to represent their Client.
That would rule out The Mail, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times (less so), Guardian (even less so), Metro, Evening Standard. So you are limiting your job opportunities somewhat (Note I left out the Beeb, whose news is more pro-establishment than pro-tory)

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It seems to me that many of our problems today have arisen precisely because far too many journalists seek to influence readers and viewers attitudes rather than providing a balanced view. Is there even a politically neutral newspaper or television network out there any more?
I agree with that 90%, I'm deducting 10% from your score because it is Editors and their Owners who are the real culprits.
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As far as I'm aware, Dr Beeching didn't murder anybody. He merely carried out government policy. The real guilty party was Ernest Marples, the then Minister of Transport who had interests in road transport. Whatever your opinions of Beeching, comparing him to a notorious serial killer is ridiculous.
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The real guilty party was Ernest Marples, the then Minister of Transport who had interests in road transport. Whatever your opinions of Beeching, comparing him to a notorious serial killer is ridiculous.
I'm not sure if that is correct Otto. Work started to demolish Belah Viaduct the very next day after the last train ran in 1963. All the same I still need to check whether the Stainmore line was a victim of the Beeching cuts or whether the axe fell before Beeching, which I seem to remember was the case.

Whilst Belah Viaduct and the Stainmore line over the Pennines was closed and largely dismantled in 1963, other parts of the line remained for a while after the Beeching cuts. However, in my previous writings I was thinking more of the rail network generally rather than the Stainmore line per se.

On the subject of Dr Beeching, there is no doubt in my mind that Ernest Marples was the real agent provocateur, who I believe left the country leaving a huge unpaid tax bill.

Beeching was tasked with providing the government of the day with the data that it needed to close uneconomic lines. Many of the cuts were probably quite justified and necessary, but I still believe there was a good case for mothballing some of the more strategic lines rather than demolishing bridges and viaducts and encouraging building on railway land which effectively put it beyond further use.

On the flip side, I understand that railway pay, working conditions and investment in railways prior to Beeching had been dismal, with staff morale at rock bottom. One of Breeching's positive contributions was that staff remaining after the cuts earned significantly more, and enjoyed better working conditions.
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Will all you old farts shut up, and lets get back to a Photo Forum..... Well that's buggered my chance of winning this months Competition....
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"my little benzedrine puff adder suddenly won't leave me alone. The reason? She want's some money, of course!"

Excellent,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

We can use BPA as an acronym from now on...........

Superb................Bless her, she will mature eventually......
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Will all you old farts shut up, and lets get back to a Photo Forum..... Well that's buggered my chance of winning this months Competition....
Just wave the red flag and you'll be fine.
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Just wave the red flag and you'll be fine.
Would that be the one with 5 yellow stars on it? Or the one with a big white "STOP" on it?
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Just a plain red flag would do, but I'm sure a hammer and sickle wouldn't go amiss.
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That's a bit too radical for me...
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I don't think Nigel's second name is Tovarich, John...
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So much for Google Translate !

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One that failed dismally as per usual

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If you ever watch a foreign video on the PC that includes Google Translate, the results can be hilarious. Reminds me of the user manuals for Chinese made power tools

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Yes, I know. Used to be like that with Japanese products! I remember my boss in 1971, who was into gadgets, bought a spray can called "E-UP". (It was a kind of easy-start mixture for carburetted cars) I can't remember more than one sentence now, which was, "E-UP isn't staining of the heavens." You get what it meant, but with a complete set of instructions written like that, it was truly hilarious!

Mind you, the funniest instruction manual in recent years that I remember was a Swedish one, for a chain saw, which told the owner, "not to try to stop the chain with fingers or genitals". The mind boggles indeed!

I also remember an American camper van that had cruise control crashing in Detroit, on one of the freeways. When the police interviewed the owner, he said that he had "put it on cruise control, and gone in the back to make a coffee". He actually thought it was like autopilot!
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