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E-M1 or E-M5

Hello,

I have had a quick scan through the forum, and I have not seen if this has already been answered, so sorry if it is a repetition.

I am looking to upgade from my E-PL3 to something a bit better. I have had some decent results with the E-PL3 and enjoy using it, but feel that it is now time for me to upgrade. Photography has now turned from an interest into a hobby!

Currently it seems that the E-M1 is exactly the same price as the E-M5 MKII, so it is a dilema which body I should consider going for. They are currently both just within my price range. I already have a selection of MFT lenses 60mm macro, 14-42 kit lens, panasonic 45-200, panasonic 100-300 and the 9mm body cap.

I am not sure which would be the better camera to upgrade to, so any advice would be much appreciated.

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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

By far the best way to choose is to get your hands on them and see what suits you.

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Here you can apply to get on a FREE demo day, street walk or other event and try B4U buy.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

If 40MP stills is your thing the EM5 MkII, if BiF then EM1. If neither think EM10 or EM5.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

That's a tough call. I think it comes down to this:

E-M5ii - positive
- Better IBIS
- Full electronic shutter
- Hi res mode

e-M5ii - negative
- Flippy screen (for me - I sometimes like to use my cameras held at waist height with screen flipped up. The only way the 5ii can do this is by flipping it out sideways, making the camera big and unwieldy).
- Needs grip for larger lenses

e-M1 positive
- PDAF (for 4/3 lenses and better tracking AF)
- Improved ergonomics (integral grip, more buttons, better placement)
- Deeper buffer (better at burst shooting)

E-M1 - negative
- A bit bigger

Don't think you can wrong with either. IQ will be almost identical.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

Thanks for the replies so far.

I am leaning towards the E-M1, especially now that I have found out that I can trade in any working camera for 150 (I don't use my old Stylus 600 any more ). Plus, the deal for a free HLD-7 grip, makes it seem a pretty good deal.

I haven't seen any similar deals for the E-M5, probably because it is a relitively new camera.

I would also say that I would be more interested in BiF than megapixels.

I wasn't aware that I could try before I buy, that should certainly help me to make my mind up!
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

Remember, the trade-in deal is for an additional 150 (on top of what the trade-in is valued at).

If you don't require the additional grip, you can always sell it on too...makes for an even better price.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

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I would also say that I would be more interested in BiF than megapixels.
Ah - you might be better off with a traditional DSLR then. The micro 4/3 AF systems aren't up to the best for really fast moving small subjects (e.g. BIF). I'm not saying that BIF can't be done, just that your success rate will be higher with a good PDAF-based DSLR.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

If you're prepared to buy a second-hand camera, the EM-1 is in fact much cheaper than the EM-5 II.

In my view, the main advantage of the EM-5 II is its completely silent and fast electronic shutter. There is also the high resolution mode, better image stabilisation, and better video capabilities. However, the EM-1 has better autofocus, better handling (this is completely subjective, of course), and a better viewfinder.

If none of these make any difference to you, but your budget is fixed, you could also consider the EM-5. You should find a new one for not much over £300. I would probably buy an EM-5 and 12-40 over an EM-5 II and 12-50 or 14-42 for the same price. And then buy the next camera (perhaps the EM-1 II) that makes a step up in image quality.
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If you're prepared to buy a second-hand camera, the EM-1 is in fact much cheaper than the EM-5 II. .........
The E-M1 new would still be a better buy with the free grip offer (or cash or whatever the promotion is), plus the warranty adds to it as well (over 2nd hand).
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

Paul made an excellent unbiased summary or the pros and cons. For me E-M1 felt far heavier and bulkier over the E-M5 than the specs suggest. I like to shoot with a top plate shutter button and no grip so the E-M1 was not an option for me. If you would keep the additional grip permanently on the E-M5 MkII (or Mk 1) then there would be little difference in holding the camera but removing the grip changes the ergonomics completely - not necessarily better or worse, just different. If this aspect is important to you then only you can make the decision.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

If 40MP stills is your thing the EM5 MkII, if BiF then EM1. If neither think EM10 or EM5.
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I took the plunge this weekend and got the EM1.

Thank you to everybody who took the time to offer advice, it certainly made the decision a little bit easier.
I have only spent one day shooting with the EM1 since buying it, but so far, I love it!
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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I took the plunge this weekend and got the EM1.

Thank you to everybody who took the time to offer advice, it certainly made the decision a little bit easier.
I have only spent one day shooting with the EM1 since buying it, but so far, I love it!
Wise choice! Hope you have lots of fun with it then. I'm certainly glad to have mine with all it can offer & it is the first choice of cameras to use but am also glad to have the E-M5 as a second body.

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Re: E-M1 or E-M5

Try for BiF
Shutter Priority
Auto ISO
Box of 9 focus points
C-AF
I.S.Auto or 1
High speed sequential at 6 fps
ESP metering

Now hold the camera vertically, like you would with the grip so the PDAF can lock on the BiF's, it does well like this. I hold or rest the lens in between the thumb and index finger of my right hand and place my left hand so my thumb is under the camera and run that index finger up to the shutter button. My grip is on the way.
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