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OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Some of you may already be aware that my daughter Tina and I plan to visit Vietnam later this year and she is considering buying the OM-D E-M5 II as her main camera over her backup Canon G12.

We visited Camera House this afternoon and she very much likes the feel of the OM-D E-M5 II and before jumping in would like to hear from any of you that are currently using this camera and any issues that you may have had with it.

This is the deal - https://www.camerahouse.com.au/olymp...-system-camera

Edit: 14mm-45mm sold with the camera .
18- 45 mm f.1.8 lens added . Package is around AUD 1600.00 (UK 887.75)

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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

The E-M5ii is a great camera Mark. It has a lovely feel to it and it oozes quality. My only complaint would be the lack of PDAF if you plan to do any serious CAF work or want to use 4/3 lenses. Other than that, there is little not to like.

I have only a little experience of the 14-150 lens, but my advice would be to avoid it - unless an all-one superzoom is really what you need. Optically I think it's "OK", but I really think that m43 needs brighter glass than f 4-5.6. I'd personally try to replace it with the 12-40 and forsake the longer reach.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Thanks Paul, Tina has already viewed your comments as I have sent her the link to this thread.
Pardon our ignorance, what is PDAF and CAF? (acronyms always rattle me)
Edit: Of course, CAF, continuous AF and PDAF Phase Detection AF.
This would be her first Olympus camera so she won't be using any 4/3 lenses.
She's been watching some very positive video reviews on the camera.
She has the cash and happy to have a few lenses, the 14-150 lens would be useful for street character studies.
Thanks again from us both and if she goes Oly as she most likely will, then I'll recommend that she joins the forum.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

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I have only a little experience of the 14-150 lens, but my advice would be to avoid it - unless an all-one superzoom is really what you need. Optically I think it's "OK", but I really think that m43 needs brighter glass than f 4-5.6. I'd personally try to replace it with the 12-40 and forsake the longer reach.
I don't have the OM-D E-M5 II or the 14 ~ 150 mm zoom but I would second what Paul says.

I have the OM-D E-M1 with the 14 ~ 40 Pro lens and find it superb and perfectly balanced, although best performance is between f4.5 and f8.0. There is a slight loss of sharpness when wide open, but this may not apply to all examples of the lens.

With regard to the 14 ~ 150 mm, I have the 40 ~ 150 kit lens, which is small and light enough to travel in my bag for the few occasions that it is needed. Image quality is 'OK', but no match for the 14 ~ 40. Apart from the lack of speed I find that image quality nosedives at the long end, making anything beyond about 120 mm disappointing.

The 14 ~ 150 may well be better, though I would doubt it. Based on this experience I would caution against relying on the 14 ~ 150 as an 'only lens' for a camera as good as the EM-5 Mkii, but would instead suggest using the 12 ~ 40, with the lightweight 40 ~ 15 kit lens for occasional use when needed.

The only lens that I have found better than the 12 ~ 40 is the 12 ~ 60 E-System lens from my E5, but that is quite big and bulky to carry around and doesn't balance well with the OM-D.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Mine gets used more than my E-M1 for landscapes but not for macro I sue the E-M1 due to the size of my main lens.
I would recoment the E-M5ii I do not have a 14-150 but with the 12-40 on the camera when holding it with the left hand unmder the lens it feels right.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

I have the E-M5 Mk 1 not the Mk2 but based on this I suggest you (and Tina) think about the 12-40mm Pro and the 40-150mm as a lens combo. The extra 2mm of the 12mm can be quite crucial in confined spaces and the F/2.8 will get you out of trouble in most cases. The 40-150mm is light and cheap when you want something a bit longer and I suggest you will only need it when you can't zoom with your legs. The 14-150mm superzoom does have its place and if I see a cheap second hand one I may well buy it so I will not say don't get it but consider how much you are paying for it as part of the package.

Edit: actually the $300 or so for the 14-150mm as part of the kit over the camera body only price is half the regular lens price and close to the price of the 40-150mm. Go for it (and maybe a secondhand 12-40mm) unless you can find a E-M5ii + 12-40mm kit.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Cathy uses the 14-150 with my old EM1i and although it is not the same quality as the PRO lenses it allows her to use it as a walk around without changing lenses.

In good light it is a reasonable lens - in poor light less so.

I’ll dig out a couple of hers and mine taken at the same time so you have a comparison - we’re away for the weekend so if I don’t do it today remind me Tuesday!
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I don't have the OM-D E-M5 II or the 14 ~ 150 mm zoom but I would second what Paul says.
I have the OM-D E-M1 with the 14 ~ 40 Pro lens and find it superb and perfectly balanced, although best performance is between f4.5 and f8.0. There is a slight loss of sharpness when wide open, but this may not apply to all examples of the lens.
With regard to the 14 ~ 150 mm, I have the 40 ~ 150 kit lens, which is small and light enough to travel in my bag for the few occasions that it is needed. Image quality is 'OK', but no match for the 14 ~ 40. Apart from the lack of speed I find that image quality nosedives at the long end, making anything beyond about 120 mm disappointing.
The 14 ~ 150 may well be better, though I would doubt it. Based on this experience I would caution against relying on the 14 ~ 150 as an 'only lens' for a camera as good as the EM-5 Mkii, but would instead suggest using the 12 ~ 40, with the lightweight 40 ~ 15 kit lens for occasional use when needed.
The only lens that I have found better than the 12 ~ 40 is the 12 ~ 60 E-System lens from my E5, but that is quite big and bulky to carry around and doesn't balance well with the OM-D.
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Mine gets used more than my E-M1 for landscapes but not for macro I sue the E-M1 due to the size of my main lens.
I would recoment the E-M5ii I do not have a 14-150 but with the 12-40 on the camera when holding it with the left hand unmder the lens it feels right.
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I have the E-M5 Mk 1 not the Mk2 but based on this I suggest you (and Tina) think about the 12-40mm Pro and the 40-150mm as a lens combo. The extra 2mm of the 12mm can be quite crucial in confined spaces and the F/2.8 will get you out of trouble in most cases. The 40-150mm is light and cheap when you want something a bit longer and I suggest you will only need it when you can't zoom with your legs. The 14-150mm superzoom does have its place and if I see a cheap second hand one I may well buy it so I will not say don't get it but consider how much you are paying for it as part of the package.
Edit: actually the $300 or so for the 14-150mm as part of the kit over the camera body only price is half the regular lens price and close to the price of the 40-150mm. Go for it (and maybe a secondhand 12-40mm) unless you can find a E-M5ii + 12-40mm kit.

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Cathy uses the 14-150 with my old EM1i and although it is not the same quality as the PRO lenses it allows her to use it as a walk around without changing lenses.
In good light it is a reasonable lens - in poor light less so.
I’ll dig out a couple of hers and mine taken at the same time so you have a comparison - we’re away for the weekend so if I don’t do it today remind me Tuesday!
Nigel, Alf Jeremy, Walti - First an apology for the delayed reply to your valuable information, which has been digested and gratefully accepted.
Tina has been reading reviews and weighing the pros and cons of the M5 Mkii against the PEN F which with considerable tact I was able to dissuade her.
She has decided to go with the OMD, partly because of its water sealed body, and perhaps easier than the PEN for her to navigate its menu and converse with its functions.
It seems that the F2.8 12~40 pro is the must have lens and that the 40-150mm is disappointing at the long end. Sigma may have a better solution.

I will let you know when a deal is done.

Thanks again, Mark & Tina
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

If you have the cash then the 12-100 f4 is unbeatable for an all in one travel lens.
Heavy and expensive, but worth the match to that body.
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If you have the cash then the 12-100 f4 is unbeatable for an all in one travel lens.
Heavy and expensive, but worth the match to that body.
Thanks Andrew, I've just been on the blower to Lyn aka Floribunda who said just that.
Tina does have the money (or at least she has a loving well healed partner who does!)

It seems to me that it obviates the need for a 2nd lens, at least for the trip.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Another vote for the 12-100 f4 from me it's a cracking lens, just wish it was a bit lighter. I did use a Panasonic 14-140 mk2 before pretty much all the time and to be honest it was very good and really light and compact but now using the 12-100 there is just that little something extra in the images. Plus the IS is just crazy. Not taking a tripod helps with the extra weight. Remains to be seen if I resort back to the Panny for easier holiday travel or if Charlotte pinches it to go with my old EM1 mk1
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

I have not got an EM5ii, but I am thinking about getting one to replace my aging GX7, which is my "back-up" M4/3 body.

What I do have a lot of experience with is the 14-150 ii lens.

For my stock shooting, which often needs a range of focal lengths it is ideal.

It balanced nicely on the EM5 that I used to have and on my current EM1.

I held off from buying it for a long time, because I was worried that IQ would drop off at the long end. A basic requirement for stock shooting is that the lens must produce quality acceptable to the agency throughout its FL range.

The 14-150 meets that requirement with ease. And it is weatherproof.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Phill, Peter - thank you both for your thoughts on the 12~100mm and the 14~150mm lenses but the die is cast. Tina has ordered the OMD E-M5 Mkii with the 12~40mm F2.8 PRO. The rationale being that the faster F2.8 for low light and night photography during the Vietnam autumn will be more useful than the longer reach of the 12~100mm F4 PRO.
Total price: AU $1898 (UK ₤1036) for delivery next Wednesday.

My kit will comprise the antique E-3 + SWD 12-60mm F2.8 and the compact XZ2 - not forgetting the Galaxy S8+
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She can always get a 12-100m lens to take that along as well, ownership of one does not preclude the ownership of the other.
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Re: OM-D E-M5 II - User opinions sought please

Certainly don't forget the a Galaxy S8+
I'm unfamiliar with the model other than its an android. But I suspect add-on lenses are available similar to those for the iPhone.
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