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End of E system ?

Where are we going with the E system, at the moment nobody seems to have confidence to invest in more expensive lenses when the clock is ticking.

when you price lenses like the ed 35-100 or ed 150 its a lot of cost to invest when you dont know where the system is going or what its going to be worth in a couple of years!!

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Re: End of E system ?

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I've got to say that I've never really seen DSLR photography as an investment - to me it's a hobby. Even if you look at the other brands and their relentless changes you couldn't be certain of backing the correct horse - so to speak. I've just bought a second hand E-3 and I'm really happy with both it and the lenses I can still buy - 1st or 2nd hand. Realistically the kit does not catastrophically fail so I don't see a problem. I'm enjoying taking photographs that I think are better because of the kit I've got. I'm just enjoying it.
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Re: End of E system ?

According to "that rumor site" ex Olympus chief Mr. Watanabe has been interviewed saying that the Exx line will continue along with the Ex line... if they do actually go through with that and make an E50 it will restore a lot of confidence.
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Re: End of E system ?

I view it as a hobby and still have my old OM2, E510 & my E3 which is under a year old but as over the years you add more toys which over the years is rather a lot of pennies and as i dont have a bottomless pocket i have to consider that if i were to spend 5000 pounds over the course of a couple of years and if it was only worth 1,500 a couple of years later i would be a bit concerned. I realise that it will still take the same pics but its nice if the manufacture keeps investing so that you can upgrade various bits over the years rather than somthing totally differnt.

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Re: End of E system ?

I appreciate that Olympus ownership is not for the faint hearted and like many others I do look over the wall at what the neighbours have to offer from time to time. However, as a complete package I still cannot find any thing remotely affordable or practical which could tempt me to switch. Canon, Nikon and Pentax all make some nice cameras which I'm sure I could get used to but none have absolutely all the features I love about the E-3 and/or the E-5. That's not a deal breaker, but the lenses are as far as I'm concerned so I will just have to continue to live with the uncertainty. However, I regard the E-5 as an eventual upgrade that will serve me as far into the future as it's possible to look with any manufacturer. Others must, of course, make their own judgement but I plan to continue to enjoy what I've got and add to it when I am able.
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Re: End of E system ?

Well I think that the one thing that will make Olympus continue developing the E series is if we go on buying into it. A couple of weeks ago I bought an E5 as my contrubition to the campaign, so far I am overjoyed with my purchase.

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Re: End of E system ?

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Well I think that the one thing that will make Olympus continue developing the E series is if we go on buying into it. A couple of weeks ago I bought an E5 as my contrubition to the campaign, so far I am overjoyed with my purchase.
That's a lovely sentiment but not all of us can or want to spend that much on a camera... I love what I can achieve with the e-system and have no plans to move but I would like some choice in the future other than just Ex and PEN.

The 50mm macro and 50-200mm are still on my wish list and I know they are both superb lenses for FT but as far as I know neither of them are stellar performers when it comes to auto-focus on MFT... not the end of the world I know but still something to keep in the back of the mind.
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Re: End of E system ?

What we buy today, will do what we buy it to do, for many years to come !

I have a 15 years old Toshiba Laptop - it still works and does all I bought it to do ... its a bit s .. l .. o .. w STILL PRINTS TOO; and links to the internet on ... dial up ... its a bit s .. l .. o .. w ! in comparison to my new NB 250 and 140!

So My E-5 I just ordered 24 hours ago, will be compat with all my E1 4/3rd lenses and help the lenses to make even BETTER photos ! and maybe ... like OM 1 still do the job, it was bought to do, well in 50 years time !

BTW ... Olympus DSLR s are just a subset of Oly Imaging and PHEW just look at those babies they make for Medics and Scientists ! The brand would be sold on to realise the potential of many years of research to come in cameras for US from medic/scientists research No Japanese Corp will throw ALL THAT PROFIT AWAY !
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Re: End of E system ?

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I appreciate that Olympus ownership is not for the faint hearted and like many others I do look over the wall at what the neighbours have to offer from time to time. However, as a complete package I still cannot find any thing remotely affordable or practical which could tempt me to switch.
I'm with you on that one.
The Nikisonycan club is also expensive.
If I wanted to recoup my costs I'd be working so hard at photography that I would barely have time to look here far less comment.
I will be upgrading this year and I won't be getting rid of anything.
I bought my OM-1 in 1976 on a bank loan, paid it off, got another loan and bought some lenses. In 1990 I went to Orkney, Shetland and the Faeroes and before leaving sent the OM-1 for repair. It was stuffed. I went out and bought a VG quality 2nd hand OM-1n. I've still got it, it still works and is loaded with B&W.
As others here say its a hobby.Its the pictures that count and I buy the best I can afford to try for the best quality and practicality. Its just a shame that my 'eye' and imagination often fall short.
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Re: End of E system ?

I bought my Olympus gear for the enjoyment of photography, not as an investment. To me an investment implies a return plus a profit on my money which implies doing photography professionally, which I don't (yet ) do.

However, I have reached a point with Olympus where I don't know where to go from here. I have several of the top Pro lenses and would dearly love the 90-250mm. Zuiko glass just beats the competition and the competition knows it. The cost deters me as I want to be confident that I am going to be able to use the lens (and those I already own) with better cameras in the future. I currently own the E-3 and E-30 but not tempted (yet) by the E-5 with the current price versus its improvements. I don't feel that the Olympus camera bodies match up to the quality of the top lenses.

I don't think that the 4/3rds chip can go much further noise wise or resolution wise than the E-5, I would love to be convinced otherwise. The full frame brigade is calling me loud and clear with low noise, more megapixels (not that important though) and shallow DoF with fast lenses.

I am seriously considering selling my two f2.0 top pro lenses to pay for a D700 (D800?) full frame SLR. I would still keep the rest of my Oly gear as well though.



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Re: End of E system ?

Here is what I posted on an Australian forum with some of them knocking Olympus for never being as good as the APS-C sensor cameras & also saying there was no future in 4/3's.

Here is a translation of a quote from an interview in China at the P&E 2011 by the Chinese website Tech.sina interviewing the ex Olympus chief Mr. Watanabe

Editor: Are there any plan on new E system camera? In P&E 2011, what Olympus will focus on in the promotion?
WATANABE AKIRA: We are not ready to reveal the details of new products. We will definitely further develop the 1 and 2 digit E system series (e.g. E-5 and E-30) since there are some functionalities cannot be realized in PEN series. But concerning the 3 digit E system series, we are considering replacing it by the PEN series. We be continue to develop lenses for PEN series and at the same time we will continue to develop Four Third lenses. We think that PEN series lenses are still very limited so we might focus more on this in the near future.

It seems like there is still a future in Olympus DSLR's, including bringing out a replacement for the E30.


I won't be giving up Olympus anytime soon as I am enjoying what I have & hope to get some more lenses & maybe another body in the future.
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Re: End of E system ?

Steve I decided to Buy E-5 when ? for the here member name = stevednp3 UG! another Steve

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13785

posted a photo of his daughter (for gran for mothers day !) amazing, and when he took it to be printed the printer was surprised it was Oly and everyone who viewed it hanging [before he collected it]

Peters PG Falcons
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13650

Andyf you want sharp
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14162

AND I saw PeterD's and thought these are all low IQ jpeg for WEB
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Re: End of E system ?

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Here is what posted on an Australian forum with some knocking Olympus for never being as good as the APS-C sensor cameras & also saying there was no future in 4/3's.

Here is a translation of a quote from an interview in China at the P&E 2011 by the Chinese website Tech.sina interviewing the ex Olympus chief Mr. Watanabe

Editor: Are there any plan on new E system camera? In P&E 2011, what Olympus will focus on in the promotion?
WATANABE AKIRA: We are not ready to reveal the details of new products. We will definitely further develop the 1 and 2 digit E system series (e.g. E-5 and E-30) since there are some functionalities cannot be realized in PEN series. But concerning the 3 digit E system series, we are considering replacing it by the PEN series. We be continue to develop lenses for PEN series and at the same time we will continue to develop Four Third lenses. We think that PEN series lenses are still very limited so we might focus more on this in the near future.

It seems like there is still a future in Olympus DSLR's, including bringing out a replacement for the E30.


I won't be giving up Olympus anytime soon as I am enjoying what I have & hope to get some more lenses & maybe another body in the future.
It's interesting that an E-30 replacement (E-50?) has been hinted at by Mr Watanabe. Olympus have NEVER said that the E-5 would be the last 4/3 DSLR, what they have said is that there will ALWAYS be a suitable body on which to use the 4/3 lenses. This has widely been (mis)interpreted to mean only MFT cameras in future but it is a real possibility that another DSLR sitting below the E-5 will at some point be produced. If Oly do produce an E-xx with the same sensor/processor/AA filter as the E-5 and price it to be competitive with the Canon 60D it really will be game on! Remember, the E-30 came as a bit of a surprise shortly after the E-3 and it introduced a new sensor to the range......interesting!

However, it's premature to raise hopes too much and I think we have to accept that the E-620 is probably the last of the E-xxx range.
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Re: End of E system ?

Let's just say for argument's sake Olympus announces that the E-System is finished from today. Does that mean your camera and lenses, and other lenses compatible with your camera suddenly stop working?

As I have said many times before, nobody has definitively said that the E-System will not continue with additional models. Many were surprised that the E-5 came to fruition. What Olympus has said is that they are working towards a mirror-less roadmap. That does point towards Pen technology but as there is a good deal of commonality between Micro Four Thirds and Four Thirds one's investment in Four Thirds is much more secure than, say, when Canon switched from its FD mount to the EOS mount.

I'm predicting an E-1 sized body that takes Micro Four Thirds lenses and Four Thirds lenses with the appropriate adapter. But this won't be until next year at the earliest. In the mean time, I think Olympus would be doing themselves a big favour in producing an E-700, based on the E-6xx body, and I know Watanabe san was very proud of his team's achievement in producing the E-620.

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Let's just say for argument's sake Olympus announces that the E-System is finished from today. Does that mean your camera and lenses, and other lenses compatible with your camera suddenly stop working?
I don't think anyone is suggesting they will, but we all know that technology marches on regardless and it would be nice to have the option to get the new toys as they are available!
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