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Blue sky.

Popped out the yard yesterday and saw a lovely blue sky and moon.
Took a few shots, here are three for your comments.
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I like all of them, but particually like the composition of number 1.
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Re: Blue sky.

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I like all of them, but particually like the composition of number 1.
Thanks Edward.
I must say that the cloud trail looked pinker in the flesh as it were. Not sure how to boost it.
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Re: Blue sky.

Super shots realy like No. 1
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Re: Blue sky.

I also like no 1 the best.

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Thanks Edward.
I must say that the cloud trail looked pinker in the flesh as it were. Not sure how to boost it.
Dave you have two ways of doing it in Photoshop.

1- using the channel mixer which will tend to warm the blue sky as well



2- or using curves on the red channel.



In either case add your own settings to taste.
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Re: Blue sky.

Thanks Wee Man and Paul. No 1 was the first shot I took. Half an hour later it had all gone.
Paul, I don't have Photoshop but I do have Elements which I don't use much, I use LR for my stuff and did try to boost the red saturation.
Can I do what you are suggesting in Elements?
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Re: Blue sky.

Indeed you can Dave, just use the red channel in levels and move the r/h slider in about so. you may want to adjust the mid slider on the blue channel as well.

By the way if you want Curves in Elements 6 install this very good free plugin.
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Re: Blue sky.

Can I add my vote for number 1 as well... lovely shot!
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Re: Blue sky.

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Indeed you can Dave, just use the red channel in levels and move the r/h slider in about so. you may want to adjust the mid slider on the blue channel as well.

By the way if you want Curves in Elements 6 install this very good free plugin.
http://free.pages.at/easyfilter/curves.html

Thanks Paul.
I did try an edit in Elements using "Enhance" adjust colour. Elements 4 that is. You seem to have got a deeper pinkiness than I. I will try again, maybe it is time to upgrade my elements, even to the full Photoshop.
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Thanks Paul.
I did try an edit in Elements using "Enhance" adjust colour. Elements 4 that is. You seem to have got a deeper pinkiness than I. I will try again, maybe it is time to upgrade my elements, even to the full Photoshop.
Dave if I might add my 2 pennorth. If you have Lightroom it seems to me that you can do all that Paul is suggesting, you can even selectively increase the saturation of any colour you choose. There is no need for you to upgrade in any way.

I think I would also choose the first shot also, however what I feel needs some attention and requires addressing by you, is the amount of compression you are giving these shots for use on the web. Looking at the file sizes I can see it, and the actual images on the screen indicate compression artefacts, blocking and a lack of tonal gradation. Exporting the shots from Lightroom gives you all the control you need to produce shots of the correct size in terms of dimension and file size.
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Dave if I might add my 2 pennorth. If you have Lightroom it seems to me that you can do all that Paul is suggesting, you can even selectively increase the saturation of any colour you choose. There is no need for you to upgrade in any way.


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I'd dissagree Stephen as the first thing i did (as Dave said he had it) was take it into lightroom with no effect as there is just not enough pink (red channel) in the cloud for LR's sliders to have a effect on. Even just using the exposure brush at full saturation just on the clouds had no effect. LR is good but for accessing and fine tuning individual rgb channels you just cannot beat a proper editor. But I'm always willing to learn something new if I have missed something.
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I'd dissagree Stephen as the first thing i did (as Dave said he had it) was take it into lightroom with no effect as there is just not enough pink (red channel) in the cloud for LR's sliders to have a effect on. Even just using the exposure brush at full saturation just on the clouds had no effect. LR is good but for accessing and fine tuning individual rgb channels you just cannot beat a proper editor. But I'm always willing to learn something new if I have missed something.
Mmm, Ok, I hadn't realised you had tried LR. I'd agree there isn't enough pink in the red channel. However I have now imported the picture into LR and managed very easily to reproduce what you seemed to get in Levels in Elements.

Go down to Split Toning, move Hue up to 360 to get the pinks, then move saturation up to about 25
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Re: Blue sky.

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By the way if you want Curves in Elements 6 install this very good free plugin.
http://free.pages.at/easyfilter/curves.html

Paul

Thanks for this plug in.I use elements 6 and have always been a bit miffed that there was not a full version of curves on it just the adjust colour/adjust colour curves which does not give much control.


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Paul

Thanks for this plug in.I use elements 6 and have always been a bit miffed that there was not a full version of curves on it just the adjust colour/adjust colour curves which does not give much control.


Works a treat.
No problem, it will also work in Dave's Elements 4.

Do you have layer masks installed in your copy of Elements, if not I can reccomend this.
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pse...ermasktool.htm
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Do you have layer masks installed in your copy of Elements, if not I can reccomend this.
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pse...ermasktool.htm
Thank you,all now loaded.Will have a play later.
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