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To Speed Or Not To Speed

It seems we are going to have speed limiters fitted to all new cars by 2022. As these gadgets can be legally deselected by the driver it seems to be another item of pointless legislation approved by the EU.


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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

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As these gadgets can be legally deselected by the driver it seems to be another item of pointless legislation approved by the EU.
Where did you see that?

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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

I would love to have automatic cruse control, with distance sensing speed regulation and breaking. My son has it on his Volvo.

I have had something similar sat next to me for years
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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

I have adaptive cruise control on my Volvo as well - coming home from the show last week I did not have to brake on the whole of the journey on the M40 and A34, the car kept me at a sensible distance from the vehicle in front and at sensible speed.

but then some people are happy to be in the arms of nanny Volvo other people want to do it all themselves.

UK car makers will have to comply with these rules if they want to sell into the EU, and the EU car manufacturers would only charge extra to remove the extra features so that they could be sold in the UK.
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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

Trucks have had them for years. But let’s have a pop at the EU while we’re about it eh?

If it reduces speed in built up areas it would seem like a good idea. If it meant an end to wretched speed humps even more so!
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Trucks have had them for years. But let’s have a pop at the EU while we’re about it eh?

If it reduces speed in built up areas it would seem like a good idea. If it meant an end to wretched speed humps even more so!
The point I was trying to make (maybe not clearly) was that the proposed speed limiters are to be switchable, ie able to be switched off by the driver at will, at least according to the web reports and TV News.

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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

If it reduces the possibility of speeding, how are the councils going to find an alternative source of funds...…………….????
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Same here Graham ! Oh, if only THEY were switchable

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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

Yes but they will re-engage the next time the car is started. The start-stop system in my last car did the same, thankfully in my present one once it’s switched off it stays off! A speed limiter must be capable of being overridden though to get you out of trouble if necessary.
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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

Seems like a good idea but only applies to cars after 2022? So the 10 year old BMW's driven around the UK will still be able to hurtle around at breakneck speeds cutting a path through the queues of traffic...

I use my cruise control a lot and its a bit of a competition now to see if I don't brake, which automatically stops the cruise control, and anticipate the traffic in front instead including overtaking...it does work well sometimes.

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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

It will only work on and apply to newly registered cars.

So it will be over 20 years before it applies to the majority of cars on the road.

My current Volvo already displays the speed limit for the location where I am traveling through. It is uncannily accurate as it changes within a few meters of a speed sign. It's the next obvious step.

Dont think it will bother me.
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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

I have an adjustable speed limiter in my car.

I don't like using it as I don't feel in full control, and feels as if the car is in 'limp home' mode, but is very useful in built up areas and motorway roadworks.

That said I don't get much pleasure from driving these days and other than driving to Scotland, Northumberland or over the moors I would rather be on the train. The roads are too congested and there is so much needless aggression, which I don't think speed limiters will reduce.
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Re: To Speed Or Not To Speed

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I have adaptive cruise control on my Volvo as well - coming home from the show last week I did not have to brake on the whole of the journey on the M40 and A34, the car kept me at a sensible distance from the vehicle in front and at sensible speed.
I can do that all by myself! Generally only ever brake at junctions or occasionally at corners on roads I don’t know.
I think people are gradually getting worse at driving and this won’t help, it’ll just make people less attentive to actual road conditions and they will come to rely on the car to make up for their inability to drive properly.
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A speed limiter must be capable of being overridden though to get you out of trouble if necessary.
So what sort of situation will going faster help in where braking and perhaps tucking back in wouldn’t?
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