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Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

Donald Duck strikes again!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7640591.html

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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

I'm curious why these devices have been restricted but not mobile phones. My first thought was maybe some intelligence has emerged about a bomb risk, but then you wouldn't want these in the luggage hold either. Maybe it's just another of Trump's baffling whims?
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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

Just more Trumped up nonsense!
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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

I think they should make a new version of the film "The Men in Black" as "The Men in White"

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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

I was in Athens airport last week and they made me take my lens cap off and checked it was covering glass and not some plastic explosive. This was only happening to large cameras I suppose that this was on the grounds that small ones could not contain enough explosive to bring down a plane, I do not know where they were drawing the line.
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I was in Athens airport last week and they made me take my lens cap off and checked it was covering glass and not some plastic explosive. This was only happening to large cameras I suppose that this was on the grounds that small ones could not contain enough explosive to bring down a plane, I do not know where they were drawing the line.
And do they allow for the crop factor?

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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

Is there no beginning to the intelligence of the SCROTUS and his crew?

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This ban has now been introduced by the UK Goverment also:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39343971

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This ban has now been introduced by the UK Goverment also:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39343971

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So far all very jokey - but maybe there is a reason
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So far all very jokey - but maybe there is a reason
Sadly, in the unstable times we live in there is undoubtedly a very good reason.

Fear of cameras by airport security is nothing new. On one of many visits to Iran, prior to the 1979 revolution (when the Shah and his SAVAK secret police had everything under control ) I had an interesting photographic experience. I had taken a camera with me (Olympus trip IIRC) and when I had the film developed at home there was a wierd out of focus shot I couldn't figure out. It eventually dawned on me that it was taken in Tehran Airport terminal by a security official. During the pre-boarding search my camera was found and I was asked to point out the shutter button. The security guy then held the camera at arms length, closed his eyes, made a fearful grimace and released the shutter. When he opened his eyes and found he wasn't in Paradise yet he gave a big grin and wished me a safe journey.

Iran was a wonderful place then. The only country I visited where I got shot at ( by the "good guys" who shot at everyone after dark ) and knew that wherever I went my movements were reported and conversations recorded. I can't imagine what it is like now.

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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

Just heard on the news that the UK has adopted the same measures as the US!

Just noticed the above post by DavyG, Ha, I was in to much of a rush, sorry.
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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

I gather this follows an incident where a terrorist detonated a device in a laptop shortly after takeoff from an airport in the Middle East, blowing a sizable hole in the plane, but not bringing it down.

The terrorist was sucked out of the plane owing to cabin pressure and was killed, but the plane was able to make a successful emergency landing. No other passengers were killed but some suffered injuries.

Given this background the new restrictions would seem to make a lot of sense, but why were they not brought in immediately after the event, which I believe happened around two years ago?
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I gather this follows an incident where a terrorist detonated a device in a laptop shortly after takeoff from an airport in the Middle East, blowing a sizable hole in the plane, but not bringing it down.

The terrorist was sucked out of the plane owing to cabin pressure and was killed, but the plane was able to make a successful emergency landing. No other passengers were killed but some suffered injuries.

Given this background the new restrictions would seem to make a lot of sense, but why were they not brought in immediately after the event, which I believe happened around two years ago?
Seems a bit like the proverbial stable door and horse that bolted.....
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Re: Ban on Muslim Cameras in Planes

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I gather this follows an incident where a terrorist detonated a device in a laptop shortly after takeoff from an airport in the Middle East, blowing a sizable hole in the plane, but not bringing it down.

The terrorist was sucked out of the plane owing to cabin pressure and was killed, but the plane was able to make a successful emergency landing. No other passengers were killed but some suffered injuries.

Given this background the new restrictions would seem to make a lot of sense, but why were they not brought in immediately after the event, which I believe happened around two years ago?
The BBC report includes this assessment.
"It is not the result of a specific, identified terrorist plot, but of mounting concern in US and British intelligence circles at the ongoing interest amongst jihadist groups in the Middle East in blowing up a passenger plane in mid-air."

Given the apparently increasingly successful operations to defeat IS on the ground it seems quite likely that they are looking at alternative ways to cause mayhem and no doubt monitoring of their "chatter" is indicating this.
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The BBC report includes this assessment.
"It is not the result of a specific, identified terrorist plot, but of mounting concern in US and British intelligence circles at the ongoing interest amongst jihadist groups in the Middle East in blowing up a passenger plane in mid-air."

Given the apparently increasingly successful operations to defeat IS on the ground it seems quite likely that they are looking at alternative ways to cause mayhem and no doubt monitoring of their "chatter" is indicating this.
Indeed and I understand the concern, but which is easier, bribing a sympathetic baggage handler to get something through airside security, allegedly as happened to the plane in Egypt, or getting a dodgy laptop through a personal hand inspection at the passenger security gate in full view of everyone?
Looks like I'll not be using Turkish Airlines via Istanbul for my next holiday, if I want to take my camera gear, which is a shame as they are superb to fly with.
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