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Old 13th September 2013
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

How strange... Just looked at Exif Picasa and it has two entries for white balance - one "Auto" and one "Unknown"
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Just to add my bit from Thursdays launch, I had a great time meeting lots of great people
Big thanks to Ian and Mark for sorting this and to Zoe and Caroline (avalable through the FRESH agency) for giving us the opportunity to test the kit

ok some shots, check the exif as some are EM5, I've just ordered the 75mm from SRS after Part Xing some 4/3 rd kit, resistance is futile

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just a note on the feel, it's very much like the M5 with the top half of the grip but the shutter release button feels a bit higher but the finish is a step up in quality (more pix in the gallery)

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

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Thank you to Ian and Mark at Olympus for a very worthwhile and useful time.
Interesting that some people are still not quite convinced by the focusing.
For me it seems much better than the EM5/adapter combination. So I am pretty happy about that! Does anyone have any thoughts/feedback on white balance?
Here are a couple of shots of mine. They both came out different with regard to colour and I have adjusted them and they still look different!
I look forward to trying the EM1 out in concert hall or theatre!
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Hi Sisi,
this may or may not be of use to you, I took a shot of the white wall with my EM5 my white balance was set to auto and I think the pink is just what was in the light source (the L.E.D.s)?
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here are a couple from the EM1
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so I think it's just accurately recording what was there?,But I could also be completely wrong?

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Thanks Cliff. Yes, that could be perfectly possible. I need to try it out again though under different indoor lighting conditions.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

From a colour balance point of view that has got to be quite possibly the worst light in which I've ever taken a photograph. Even my normally very reliable E-m5 failed to cope and it was compounded on the E-M1 by shooting in JPEG only due to a current lack of raw processing software. I wouldn't base any opinion on whire balance or colour fidelity on this shoot.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Those LED spots are horrible. Lots of small music venues use them now because they are powerful and relatively cheap, but the light quality is awful. Sometimes when I shoot gigs I just can't get a decent-looking colour.

I think one of the underlying problems is that colour temperature is only really an accurate measure when applied to continuous-spectrum light (actually black body radiation). When we play with it in camera or post-processing we are dealing in approximations. The spectrum from the LED spots is very spiky indeed, as it contains just red, blue and green. Our eyes/brains mix the light together to make some approximation to natural light. So do our cameras with their Bayer matrix filters. I suspect that the particular RGB shades in the camera's filters are not quite the same as the colours of the LEDs so all sorts of funny side-effects can result.

I don't know what the light is like from white LEDs. I suspect it is similar, as I suspect that a white LED just has an internal mix of individual RGB emitters, but would be interested to hear if anyone has tried playing with it.

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

RGB LED lights should be OK, it's the ones that are called white but are actually yellow and blue which are horrible.

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Was able to work thru my images over the weekend.

I think I had the body with the interesting White balance. Once I started to correct this with Viewer 3, I carried on processing as I would normally. So the images are cropped and sharpened, with some noise reduction along the way.

I brought along a couple of my FT lenses to try the body with - a 14-35mm, and a 35-100.

Whilst I had some struggles with the 35-100mm finding focus, it seems on review that in fact I had more success with this lens than the 14-35. Well, it is a portrait lens.

I didn't look at the manual before the event and that was a big mistake, so I can't yet make any conclusions on whether this lens would work with wildlife - I couldn't get the shutter to work in rapid fire despite quite a few minutes working thru the menu.

Ian might be pleased to know that only a longer session with the camera via the hire service is going to resolve this.

I can report that any doubts over the compromise nature of the converter was forgotten once I was using the camera, and I did get some sharp results, at least as good as with the E-5, possibly better.

I caught this by pre-focusing and waiting for the moment - I couldn't follow the action.

35-100mm, at 35mm, 1/400. f3.2, iso 3200



35-100mm, at 35mm, 1/250. f3.2, iso 3200



The shot above gave me an idea...

35-100mm, at 59mm, 1/125. f3.2, iso 1000



from which I then took a slightly different pose thru HDR Efex Pro -

35-100mm, at 59mm, 1/125. f3.2, iso 800



I can't yet decide which I prefer.

Setting the scene -

12-40mm, at 32mm, 1/80. f3.2, iso 1000



and a close up -

45mm, 1/80. f3.2, iso 1600



The last, of Zoe saying her goodbyes, I like because of the pose and the lighting, but here there is some back focus. This is as much to do with being a grab shot, and me pre-focusing using the centre spot, and then re-framing,rather than a fault.

35-100mm, at 95mm, 1/125. f3.2, iso 1600



Overall an interesting evening, - with more experimenting to follow.

Thanks to Ian and Mark, and Zoe and Caroline.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

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Was able to work thru my images over the weekend.
Best set I've seen so far. Thanks Mark.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Thanks Bilbo.

Tho I ought to say that most of the pics above mine are straight from the camera I believe, whereas I have post-processed mine.

One more, because I thought I ought to give an example of the 14-35mm with the E-M1.

The lens is a heavy one, and would have unbalanced the camera body, were it not for the battery/grip.

This lens focused very quickly with the camera.

Another of Zoe -

14-35mm, at 33mm, 1/80, f3.2, iso400

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Thought I'de give B+W a go, all processed in picasa,

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all with Em1and the 75mm @ f1.8

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Re: Save the date - 12th September

Lovely B&W shots there Cliff. Sharp but not too sharp, great for close up portraits very natural.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

The nice gentlemen at Harrisons in Sheffield let me fondle an E-M1 today.

Seeing the sun out in Sheffield must have befuddled me... I have put my name down for one.
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Re: Save the date - 12th September

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Lovely B&W shots there Cliff. Sharp but not too sharp, great for close up portraits very natural.
Thanks for your kind comments Phil, I don't usually do much more than crop, resize and straighten but it was fun to go a bit deeper, must keep at it

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