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Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

As the title really. It is going to be hot and sunny and probably the only time I'm likely to go there in the forseeable future.

There are plenty of beaches, mountains and city photo opportunities where I think if reading serves me that I'll make use of a polarizer. Along with those there will be times I don't think I'm going to need any filters at all.

Are they worthwhile? Am I really going to kick myself if I get back and haven't had one?
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I must confess I rarely bother these days, due mainly to laziness.

On the other hand, if you've already got one, it doesn't take up much space.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I don't have one. But worry I might miss/mess up that once in a lifetime shot. Though probably it isn't going to happen. I stocked up on a bargain lens cleaning kit today from Jessops and rummaged around work for some silica gel bags from all the Hi-vis vest boxes!
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

In my opinion circular polarising filters are absolutely essential. They can enhance blue skies and green foliage beautifully, remove reflections from water and can give an extra 2 stops when blurring flowing rivers (although I would use NDs for this).

One of the my best used accessories. I have several of them for all my lens sizes although I would recommend getting one for the biggest diameter lens and then get ring adapters for the smaller lenses, works out much cheaper.

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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

Personally, if the shot is exposed correctly, I think there's a greater danger of messing up a shot with one on. You see too many overdone photos caused by over-use of filters. Just my opinion. FWIW I'm not taking one to Oz with me.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

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Personally, if the shot is exposed correctly, I think there's a greater danger of messing up a shot with one on. You see too many overdone photos caused by over-use of filters. Just my opinion. FWIW I'm not taking one to Oz with me.
Well, yes filters can be detrimental to an image if not used correctly - just look at the BBC's country programmes to see the abuse of tobacco grads on skies.

The history of photography, particularly with film, has always used filters. Warm-ups, coloured, tints, gradient, effects, diffused...... the range is huge. They are an integral part of photography and when used correctly are a great asset.

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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I would take one irrespective of whether it gets used or not. You can always take one with and one without it fitted if you have the time.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I fully agree. These days most images can have their filters applied retrospectively in PS or similar. The obvious exceptions are polarizing and ND. And polarizing filters can be extremely useful in circumstances just as you describe.

Unfortunately, as you also say, they can be abused. And my point is that it is easier to pp a photo to approximate effects (though not completely the same as polarizing) than it is to undo the effects of a poorly applied filter. In such cases a good photo could be lost. The best course of action would be to take two shots, one with a filter on, and one with the filter off.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I very rarely use them with my dSLRs as skies seem to naturally polarise themselves. Always did with film cameras though.
Might be useful for reducing reflections though.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

Hi Al
I would take a polariser and as suggested try some with and without shots for comparison. I am sure you have done the research but remember to try to be 90 to the sun for the best skies.
I have added the 2 images below for a comparison, the first shot is in portrait with the CPL turned to get the best effect, the second shot is taken a moment later with the camera turned into landscape and no adjustment to the CPL - it makes a heck of a difference.





p.s. it was deliberate Steve (Stoates) and I were discussing the effectiveness of CPLs while oot 'n' aboot.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

I'd get one Al and take it. Found them useful for landscape, beaches and mountain shots. Makes skies bluer and darker, gives clouds more definition and can use to reduce reflections from water and windows.

If you get a screw on type it's easy to take shots with and without one.
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

Thanks for the interesting discussion. I also have read that there can be issues when using with a wide lens, perhaps something I need to look out for. Need to get one and have a go
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Re: Am I going to regret not taking a CPL on holiday?

The photos I have posted are taken with the 9-18, but at 16mm; at 9mm vignetting at the corners would show - this isn't a problem if you allow space for cropping.
The other issue with wide angle lenses is that they can show so much sky that the polarising effect only covers part of it and you get different shades.
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The photos I have posted are taken with the 9-18, but at 16mm; at 9mm vignetting at the corners would show - this isn't a problem if you allow space for cropping.
The other issue with wide angle lenses is that they can show so much sky that the polarising effect only covers part of it and you get different shades.
Have had some vignetting too at the wide end of my 12-60mm lens, but zooming in a little got rid of it. Also found some variation in blue colour depth (as Iain describes) in the sky sometimes which was harder to see in the E3 viewfinder and screen. Cropping largely dealt with that, but next time i'll try taking more shots with different rotations of the filter and/or a slight zoom to see if that solves it.
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