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Internal or external drive for Lightroom

A question.

When I used Aperture on my MacBook the answer was simple, the internal drive was too small for my photo library so it lived on a portable drive then I could switch to the iMac.

Since upgrading the iMac last year I've been working on this most of the time and now use Lightroom as part of the Adobe CC.

When switching to Lightroom I used the iMac internal hard drive but it's not as convenient when travelling and has taken me a while on my return to tidy it up. I know Lightroom can use multiple locations but I want all my photos in one place.

I always do regular back ups so travelling with the entire library on a portable drive wouldn't be a major risk.

I wondered what was the preferred option by others and your thoughts on the pros and cons.

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Take a look at some of the Julieanne Kost Lightroom videos on uTube , on at least of one of them she deals with using a laptop and a main machine back home.
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http://www.jkost.com/lightroom2.html
The video called "How to Use Lightroom on Location" might give you a few tricks, it is where I am starting from.

I am still revising my way of operating have moved from Aperture 4 months ago.
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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Thank you DerekW.

I'll have a look at those. It's not 100 straightforward is it?

I'm almost caught up from the holiday after being back for almost a month!

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Although I only use a Mac when it's raining, Amanda, I have always used LR with the images on an external HD (and the catalogue, now, on the internal HD). With backup of everything to a further external HD.

I originally used a USB HD, but the downside to that is the speed of access, especially if catalogues is there too. I switched the catalogue to the internal HD, and then retired the USB HD in favour of an eSATA enclosure connected to motherboard on my PC. That too has a downside, in that I no longer have the ability to take the external HD (images and catalogue) away with me, using a notebook for any updates on the go - but that benefit has vapourised anyway, given the hardware demands of the latest LR (64 bit processor) on the one hand, and on the other hand LR Mobile on an iPad.

Can't say how much this is applicable to your Mac, but I guess the principles apply anyway.

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Thanks Piers, that is helpful. I'm thinking the external drive is the best option. Is there a speed advantage to keeping the catalogue on the internal drive?

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

most 'experts' would say to do editing on the internal drive as it should be faster and maybe safer. So have the catalog, and a folder for new files on the internal drive and move the files after editing to the external drive. Touch up editing could be done with the file on the external drive

I have the catalog on the eternal, new files on the internal, edited stuff on external. well that's the plan but like most I don't follow the "rules" to the letter
the ASUS lappy has 8gb internal; 1/2 for programs and 1/2 for photos. Not using a full frame camera or photoshop too often means the file sizes are now much smaller. A couple of programs spit out the big tiffs and I often reduce them to PSD or even jpg
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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Hi IanB,

Thanks, that sounds like a good solution. It does seem like I need to move the files to an external drive.
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Hi IanB,

Thanks, that sounds like a good solution. It does seem like I need to move the files to an external drive.
either that or stop taking so many photos

I read recently that if we leave sorting/deleting photos for a week or so, or even longer we will delete more photos because there will be less sentimental attachment to the photos. I finding that very true and IMO the best filing key in LR is the "x". Don't know about others but I think its crazy the number of photos we take [just to be sure] and even crazier the number of photos we keep [just in case]
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Thanks Piers, that is helpful. I'm thinking the external drive is the best option. Is there a speed advantage to keeping the catalogue on the internal drive?

Amanda
There is a speed advantage using internal drives, if your external drives are USB. But the size of the catalogue, and the data drawn from it, are such that you might not notice the advantage. But the size of the image files means that you would notice the advantage (more specifically, I did notice the disadvantage of the USB drive!).

On the other hand, if you were to use eSATA drives, you could have the speed benefit of internal drives (max. 3Gb/s against 400Mb/s) with the flexibility of external drives, although I suspect that Mac has gone one better than eSATA by now.

I recommend not to use USB external drives for your images, you will find the speed disadvantage frustrating, at least. Especially if you have previously used internal drives.

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

I have recently switched to using a fast laptop as my tower system died.

With the tower I did all my initial processing and stored the processed images on an internal hard drive with external backups.

With the Laptop I do everything on external drives using a USB 3 linked hdd for my active store / processing and a separate back-up hdd via USB 2

Maybe its the fact that I'm using 16 gb RAM + and I7 cpu but I see no additional delays when carrying out quite extensive post processing (the previous tower was I5 + 12 gb
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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

Not just the memory, which surely would impact the processing, but USB3 which would impact loading and saving (though I suspect not the processing).

An enviable system!

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Re: Internal or external drive for Lightroom

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Not just the memory, which surely would impact the processing, but USB3 which would impact loading and saving (though I suspect not the processing).

An enviable system!

Piers

needs must Piers but it was surprisingly well priced (a Lenovo 17" jobbie) from John Lewis (after Currys screwed things up)

I'm using a 2Tb Seagate portable drive for my main drive via USB 3 and a larger format 3Tb Western Digital drive on the USB 2 connection (I also have the 1Tb bare drive with all my working image files from the defunct tower connected via a USB caddy) so have access to about 3 years worth of processed images direct from my LR / CS cloud version, makes life very easy
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