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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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Like i suggested, do not say anything that may go against you later on. If you attempted that^ and the seller refuses then you're losing ground already. And don't try to fix anything at this point.

Ebay's policy is that they (eBay) will refund you if you have been deceived, not the seller.
Abolutely. You are the one who has been deceived and it is not for you to start offering concessions. To do so would only weaken your case. Hold out for a complete refund of the whole package, including postage. Even if you are tempted to keep the camera, remember that it has probably been stored in the same harmful conditions as the lenses which could cause problems down the line. Could there be traces of fungus on the glass filter in front of the sensor, for example, or corrosion of some moving parts?
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Hi Everyone
The seller made me an offer this morning.........Keep everything and he will take £120 for the lot and refund the balance ....i know......i know, don't do it i hear. I tried the 50-200mm with existing marks on my E30 today it was sharp but i don't have anything to compare with. The E620 seems OK on inspection. Oh, i almost forgot i have a Duathlon to shoot tomorrow morning.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

I'm going against my principles, but IF you can trust him to his word, I would take a gamble on this. Even if you have to pay to get the 50-200 serviced you could be winning.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Hi there Bovitz!

Was this approach made through the ebay resolution service or outside ebay. If it was done through ebay and they are aware of the situation then I would think it is a reasonable offer - If you are happy that the camera is ok. The refunded money should hopefully cover the costs of repairs to the lenses. If the approach was made outside of ebay I would be extremely cautious, and would request that he makes that offer through ebay.

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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Hi everyone
Just a quick update. I accepted the sellers offer of 120 plus postage and he refunded the balance.
I managed to clean the front element by unscrewing the retainer ring so being able to access the rear of it.
Not as complicated as one would think. The lens below also had blemishes and i was able to clean that also. Repeated the same to the rear element and then tightened everything down. The lens now looks much better. As stated previously it seems sharp but i have no way of comparing this and a service is probably what is required. As for the 14-54mm, well you all saw the state it arrived in. I'm not optimistic about it. I already own 2 copies, one purchased here and another with an E1 purchase so i dont think i will waist any more time with it.
The moral of this story!..........maybe you guys can suggest something
Your support and advice was appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Well, I think that's turned out better than anyone could have hoped in the circumstances. But keep that fusty lens well away from any others! Not even in the same room! Preferably in a sealed plastic bag?
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

As you are not going to use the 14-54mm, can i suggest you clean it with Methylated Spirit? Used to do this on older lenses with no adverse results, but new coatings may not like the treatment nothing lost if it fails
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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As you are not going to use the 14-54mm, can i suggest you clean it with Methylated Spirit? Used to do this on older lenses with no adverse results, but new coatings may not like the treatment nothing lost if it fails
Is methylated spirit a good idea? Hardware store meths, which has a colouring in it, is usually poor quality and leaves a residue. I'd suggest isopropyl alcohol, which is widely used for cleaning delicate components.

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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Hi there Bovitz!

I would second Ian's suggestion of using isopropyl alcohol, we use it in work for cleaning coated optical parts and I have used it many times on OM lenses without damaging the coatings.

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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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Is methylated spirit a good idea? Hardware store meths, which has a colouring in it, is usually poor quality and leaves a residue. I'd suggest isopropyl alcohol, which is widely used for cleaning delicate components.

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Sorry, Ian, should have said Medical Meths, that has no colouring. Debs gets it for me, but you can get it from a Chemists shop I believe.
Where do you get Isopropyl Alchahol, seems a handy thing to have ?
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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I would be wary of Medical Meths, not sure what else may be in it. Amazon sell isopropyl alcohol at 99.9% purity, I have purchased this with no problems, Maplins also sell 400ml aerosol cans and 1litre cans but do not quote the purity on-line. IPA (not the beer) does have many cleaning uses including removing the residue left by sticky labels, very useful to have available.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

Hi Again
Isopropyl alcohol is what i used on the 50-200mm. However with the 14-54mm. I could not see any way in to access the the parts of the lens that needs cleaning.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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The moral of this story!.....

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... seller only being in the country for a few days before going back to Belize. .
Belize!

Anyeay, you got yourself a free expensive lens, a cheap e-600 body and a knackered 14-54,
so apart from your emotional torture you got a deal!

What's a Duathlon? (runnin, swimmin, or biking?) and post the pics.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

I found this a while back on a Leica forum and tried it on a lens. It worked well:

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a. Material
Hydrogen-peroxide, 3% solution
Ammonia, 28% solution
Alcohol, 180 proof
Distilled water
b. Removing Fungus.
(1) Just prior to use, mix 10-parts hydrogen peroxide with 3-parts ammonia solution.
(2) Moisten the lens surface with the solution and allow it to stand for several minutes.
(3) Wipe the lens surface with a clean piece of lens tissue.
(4) Thoroughly clean the lens surface with distilled water.
(5) If additional cleaning is required, wipe the surface with alcohol and dry with clean lens
tissue.
NOTE: Fungus which has remained on an optical surface for a prolonged period etches
the glass. In this instance, the entire lens must be returned to the manufacturer
for replacement of the damaged element.
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Re: Recent purchase not so good!

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They've got us on milc and, alcohol...

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Glad you got a good deal in the end,

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