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There is currently an E3 camera with 14-54 f2.8, two batteries and battery grip for sale on fleabay for 150. No takers so far.


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Re: E3 Heads Up

Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.
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Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.
Focusing of FT lenses will almost certainly be better but in all other respects the E-M1 should win hands down unless you particularly favour an optical viewfinder.

Having said that I am sorely tempted to bid on this because I do miss the E-3 that I sold; in fact since passing on my E-M5 to my daughter I sometimes miss having a camera full stop!

Perversely, the extra size and weight of the E-3 is not so much of a disadvantage these days, since I'm not well enough to venture very far - with or without a camera!
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Hope you are able to go for it John, it would be great to see you posting images again.
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Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.

No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.
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No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.

I'm sorry, I don't entirely agree.

Whilst you are right that technology has increased since the heyday of the E-3, to the point that the OM-D range are vastly superior cameras in every respect, this does not mean the older Four Thirds DSLRs are suddenly incapable of producing a high quality photograph. In its day my E-3 produced fine 16 x 12 prints, many of which sold quite well and often earnt me the rather backhanded compliment, "Your pictures are great, you must have a really good camera!"
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I have plenty of nice pictures taken with my Olympus DSLRs.

They're still terrible cameras compared to modern cameras. Blown highlights, noise at ISO 100, AA filter induced softness, no leeway in RAW to recover, crappy IBIS, not enough MP to crop to 16:9.

The DxoMark score of even the E5 is much lower than that of a Sony RX100. And the E5 is less than 2 years older than an RX100. The world moves forward pretty quickly, which is why a meal at a nice restaurant costs more than an old Olympus DSLR.
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No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.
I walked away from the forum because of internet "experts" like this.

I have two shots in a 2019 birds calender both taken with an E-3 and my decades old OM Zuiko 350mm. One is a Hummingbird in flight, something impossible even with current Olympus equipment according to the internet "experts"
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Re: E3 Heads Up

Don't get your panties in a twist. Where did I say you cannot take good pictures with an Olympus DSLR? I clearly said I have taken plenty of nice pictures with mine.

The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?


Also, this is a downwards going spiral. Why stop at the E-3? What's wrong with the E-1? And actually, people took really nice pictures with film cameras in the 70s.
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I walked away from the forum because of internet "experts" like this.

I have two shots in a 2019 birds calender both taken with an E-3 and my decades old OM Zuiko 350mm. One is a Hummingbird in flight, something impossible even with current Olympus equipment according to the internet "experts"
Hi David,

Nice to see you still look in on the forum. All the best for 2019.
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The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?
I don't disagree with this at all but for someone like me with a very limited budget, old Four Thirds DSLRs such as the E-3 offer an affordable way back into the game. There is no way I could afford even a second hand E-M1, but I might just manage an E-3. Or an E-510 - I still marvel at the OOC JPEGs my wife gets out of hers.
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The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?
Maybe for the same reason people love driving vintage sport cars...

Pure pleasure

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The DxoMark score of even the E5 is much lower than that of a Sony RX100. And the E5 is less than 2 years older than an RX100.
What - the RX100 with the fixed zoom lens 10.4-37.1mm, f1.8-4.9 against the E3 with the Zuiko 12-60mm or 14-35mm F2 or Zuiko 50-100mm F2 or several other pro lenses?

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Re: E3 Heads Up

John, if you can forego the grip and battery, and assuming you still have access to a lens or two, Harrison Cameras have a body for 150, with a 12 month warranty, which may be important for someone on a tight budget.
They are an excellent firm to deal with; the price for this just depresses me, considering my new one came from them
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Also, this is a downwards going spiral. Why stop at the E-3? What's wrong with the E-1? And actually, people took really nice pictures with film cameras in the 70s.
I didn't, as well as My E-5, E3, and E-1, I bought a spare E-1 in case my original ever packs up.
Accept its limitations and it still gives super results.
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