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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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I'm a pessimist (you'd guessed hadn't you!) which means I'm rarely disappointed, and occasionally pleasantly surprised .

The People's Vote March in London today has attracted big crowds but no doubt it will be ignored, just as the one against the Iraq war was .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45925542
Alastair Campbell was asked on Newsnight why the Government should listen to a 100,000 people demanding a second referendum. When he was in Government with Tony Blair over 1,000,000 people marched to protest about us going in to the Iraq war and he ignored them.

He went very quiet and had no answer.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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... - If we could get back to that model ( Common Market ) I am sure a huge majority of people would vote for it...
The upside: Worked once before and I'm sure if it were raised again, it would pass with flying colours.

The downside: It appears we are dealing with morons posing as politicians, as such, suggesting such a simple 'fall-back solution' has proved to be beyond their ken. Hence the ongoing farcical fiasco.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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I would be quite happy, as I have said on this thread a number of times, for the UK to join in a common market. But not one step further. The common market should also carry no entry charge or payment, simple compliance with agreed standards is all that is necessary, AND no restrictions on who else you do trade deals with. Perhaps a small nominal charge to fund a neutral independent arbitration entity.
If we could get back to that model I am sure a huge majority of people would vote for it.
Couldn't agree more. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people thought that was what would happen when we joined the EU, not the bureaucratic mess it became. Possibly that's why the Brexit vote went the way it did.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

This just about sums it up.
LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. Itís just we havenít got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: Theyíre in the cake.

LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.

REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.

LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.

REMAINER: Icing is good.

LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I donít like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.

DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.

DAVID CAMERON: OK.

DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.

LEAVER: Right, whereís my omelette?

REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.

LEAVER: Well, get them out.

EU: Itís our cake.

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.

REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Donít you know how to get them out?

LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.

REMAINER: But how?! Didnít you give this any thought?

LEAVER: Saboteur! Youíre talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so thereís no reason why we canít make them now.

THERESA MAY: Itís OK, I can do it.

REMAINER: How?

THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.

REMAINER: Yeah, butÖ

LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we donít have any cake? I didnít say I didnít want the cake, just the bits I donít like.

EU: Itís our cake.

REMAINER: But you canít take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.

LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. Itís just that theyíre horrible.

REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.

LEAVER: Itís not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.

REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?

LEAVER: You lost, get over it.

THERESA MAY: By the way, Iíve started the clock on this.

REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?

THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.

REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.

EU: Itís our cake.

LEAVER: Whereís my omelette? I voted for an omelette.

REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what weíre doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.

LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.

REMAINER: Fine, Iím moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.

LEAVER: You canít. Weíve taken your freedom of movement.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Sums up the situation quite nicely...ÖÖÖÖ..

God help...ÖÖÖ...
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

On top of that, we've paid dearly over the years for the cooks to bake the cake.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

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This just about sums it up.
LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. Itís just we havenít got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: Theyíre in the cake.

LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.

REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.

LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.

REMAINER: Icing is good.

LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I donít like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.

DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.

DAVID CAMERON: OK.

DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.

LEAVER: Right, whereís my omelette?

REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.

LEAVER: Well, get them out.

EU: Itís our cake.

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.

REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Donít you know how to get them out?

LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.

REMAINER: But how?! Didnít you give this any thought?

LEAVER: Saboteur! Youíre talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so thereís no reason why we canít make them now.

THERESA MAY: Itís OK, I can do it.

REMAINER: How?

THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.

REMAINER: Yeah, butÖ

LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we donít have any cake? I didnít say I didnít want the cake, just the bits I donít like.

EU: Itís our cake.

REMAINER: But you canít take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.

LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. Itís just that theyíre horrible.

REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.

LEAVER: Itís not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.

REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?

LEAVER: You lost, get over it.

THERESA MAY: By the way, Iíve started the clock on this.

REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?

THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.

REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.

EU: Itís our cake.

LEAVER: Whereís my omelette? I voted for an omelette.

REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what weíre doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.

LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.

REMAINER: Fine, Iím moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.

LEAVER: You canít. Weíve taken your freedom of movement.
That's a far better summary of the situation than even Robert Peston has managed so far!
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

If it wasn't serious it would be really funny. Couldn't help laughing though great summary Dave.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Someone left the cake out in the rain. I don't know if I can take it 'cause it took so long to bake it and we'll never have that recipe again.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

100 years from now, Theresa May will have pathetically cheated death. Invincible and modelling herself on Margaret Thatcher, she will still be negotiating Brexit and making austerity tougher for the dole scroungers, the remainers, reggae lovers and overpaid public sector workers....All must be punished. Jeremy Corbyn will be a Cyborg in opposition on the front benches. Michael Gove and Jacob Rees-Mogg will have evolved into new slimes and Boris Johnson will have synthesised into a 3-D virtual reality gnome writing from his column on the Telegraph Buses will have been done away and everyone will have to walk round in tight shoes and divers boots. Yeah, become a Brexiteer and sample the good life
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Seems the protesters are out in force this morning fresh from their march yesterday.
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Someone left the cake out in the rain. I don't know if I can take it 'cause it took so long to bake it and we'll never have that recipe again.
You will have to make do with the crumbs, after Brexit there will be no EU trade allowed for 12 months.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

Soggy crumbs at that as after Brexit they will stop importing the European weather too
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Seems the protesters are out in force this morning fresh from their march yesterday.
I think if it does go to a second vote there will actually be riots. I can only begin to imagine if the protesters yesterday were from the other side (leavers) how the remoaners would be reacting today!
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You will have to make do with the crumbs, after Brexit there will be no EU trade allowed for 12 months.
Why wonít there be any trade? Will all the VW, Seat, Audi, BMW and Merc dealers go out of business overnight? Aldi? Lidl? Will EDF turn off all the electricity they supply? No French wine to buy? No cheeses? Pink Panther films banned?

As the subject of this thread says, Ďweíre doomed Capt. Mainwaringí !!
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