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Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II The second Micro Four Thirds camera that offers phase detect focusing so you can use Four Thirds DSLR lenses normally as well a Micro Four Thirds lenses.

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Old 28th June 2017
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Re: Bird photography problems

too far away for 1600 iso any cropping will make it look 00F even more .
Test on a cereal box at ISO 400 about 20ft away and at leased 1/500sec it should be pin sharp
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Re: Bird photography problems

To me the big problem is C-AF. With that relatively slow FT lens, especially with a TC attached, you would need a lot of light for C-AF to work, if at all. Stick with S-AF.
The IS is so good on the Mark II you shouldn't need anything shorter than 1/150. I constantly shoot with my Canon 400 at 1/60, even slower sometimes.
Have a look through these and you can see how many are taken at far slower speeds than the old 1.5x focal length rule. Just doesn't apply to the Mark II any more.
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Re: Bird photography problems

John - Chris mentioned earlier in the thread he is using the "Olympus 40-150mm lens with the 1.4x Teleconverter".

If this is the f/2.8 lens attaching the TC would result in f/4 max aperture, consistent with the EXIF.
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Re: Bird photography problems

My guess it it is the FT kit 40-150/4-5.6. The exif reader seems somehow fishy in that it does not recognize the lens ID. Maybe try PhotoMe....
Out of camera jpg? At 1600 ISO it is going to be soft anyway, but shouldn't be that soft. Not the best subject to really say much about the AF. Little contrast and few clear textures and contrast edges.
Another question, was release priority on or off?
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Re: Bird photography problems

FWIW To get better IQ I would have tried to shoot the same scene with:

S-AF
f/5.6 (instead of shooting wide open)
ISO 800
In the same light that would have resulted in a shutter speed of 1/500

OR:

S-AF
f/4.0
ISO 400
In the same light that would have (again) resulted in a shutter speed of 1/500

Another suggestion would be to try to get closer to the bird and get it to fill the frame as much as possible.
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Re: Bird photography problems

Which is it then, the new 40-150 Pro or the old kit lens?
No need for such high shutter speeds at that focal length and with that subject.
Here from yesterday in BAD light, ISO 800, 1/60, 400mm at f6.3, hand held.
35595324525_9e4e7cd856_b.jpg

That all said, if it is in fact the new 40-150 with the MC-14, there have been reports of focus issues, but I really don't think you can tell much from those two shots.
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Re: Bird photography problems

I don't think you can use the converter with the 'old kit lens'. So surely has to be the f2.8?
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Re: Bird photography problems

EC-14 1.4x TC.
IMG_0471.JPG

I just tried it, and it works fine, even with C-AF. Not super fast, but everything in focus at 210mm.
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Re: Bird photography problems

All very vague. Who knows what he wants....
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Re: Bird photography problems

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Given he apparently sold his 40-150 Pro lens and TC and Chris appears to be an experienced photographer who has bought and sold a large amount of Oly gear on here, plus his stated shutter speed above of 1/250 is at odds with the Exif , I find the whole post a little strange. I have to wonder why someone so experienced is asking for advice on a couple of poor OOF examples and providing conflicting information. Most of his photos posted on here are no longer available to view.

Maybe Chris can explain when he finally returns to the thread.

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Re: Bird photography problems

Crikey! I suddenly feel like a 'forum criminal'. Having reviewed the Exif data screenshot, I should have checked it more carefully before posting it. God knows where that came from as, for one thing, it states a flash was attached but didn't fire. There was no flash attached. The shutter speed stated is way out! I was using the Pro lens with 1.4x teleconverter.

Two other points to make in my defence: I am by no means an experienced photographer. I post on here in the hope I can improve. Also, whether or not I have bought and sold equipment on the forum is in no way relevant to my original post.

I would like to thank those who have posted helpful and encouraging advice on this thread. I'll be thinking twice before posting on here again.
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Thanks for that John. Maybe I over-reacted. The missing photos issue is a strange one as I have never taken any down!
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So how do I fix the Photobucket account please?
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Re: Bird photography problems

By the way, I'm signed up for 'instant email notifications' on the forum. Of all the recent posts on my thread, I've only received email notifications for a few of them. This is why I may have been assumed to be 'in hiding'!
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Re: Bird photography problems

Thanks John. I'll look into it.
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