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As it's so quiet (only 5 of us today)

Do I buy an E-3 or E-30 or wait for whatever comes next (E-3x) ???

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As it's so quiet (only 5 of us today)

Do I buy an E-3 or E-30 or wait for whatever comes next (E-3x) ???

Answer - Yes

(any or all of the above)

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(any or all of the above)

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Were you ever a politician
Pretty close - but I was the Election Agent for several.

Ahh - a mispent youth - why didn't I play snooker and hang out with low women in high dives instead.

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Well you could go out and buy a Canon as I did on Saturday
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Well, that's killed this thread stone dead!

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Re: Question

If it was me, I would wait and see what the next ex/xx is. If either of these did not fit the bill, the E3/30 will by then, probably be significantly cheaper!

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Interesting question. If you don't want weatherproofing, I'd buy the E30. reasons:
- slightly cheaper than E3
- better noise handling than E3
- otherwise does all the E3 does and more
- newer thaan E3 so likely to hold value a year or two longer

If your budget is not a consideration I'd wait for the E3+ (that's my own intention). Reasons:
- weatherproofing
- will surely have at least the same new sensor as E30
- can expect other significant improvements if the gap between E30 and flagship is to be maintained
But will likely cost more than the current E3 to reflect that gap

If budget is a consideration (my own backup strategy) and pixels / noise are not, look for bargains early next year among E3's new or secondhand and buy that. Reasons:
- good weatherproof camera
- price already dropping with 799 new already reported. One a year old went on Ebay a few days ago for 519...

Sound OK? If things are very tight and I see a new E3+ appearing for 1500 or more while the second-hand prices of E3s drop so I get a chance at a good one around 400 - 500 I might go for that. Otherwise save up....
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I think the metal body and weather sealing of the E-3 is worth the extra. Go for the E-3 if I were you
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I think the metal body and weather sealing of the E-3 is worth the extra. Go for the E-3 if I were you
Hi Ian

I know that you make your living using a camera and I don't, but why?

Not that I doubt you mean it, but I use cameras in some pretty extreme environments and have never considered these features necessary. I protect my cameras with Peliboxes, Umbrellas, Coats etc as needed and I've not had an issue in nearly 30 years of SLR's

I can see the potential usefulness if you're doing the paparazzi thing where you could literally be out in all weathers, but why for the rest of us?

I have seen water damage in a camera - I dropped a friends into an underground river once and kept hold of the flash cable therefore ripping the connection out of the top of the camera - it flooded .

Also re the metal body - I've used cameras with both and not seen any real performance difference - it's a black box with film/ccd - so long as it's not distorting during use what difference does it really make ?

I see both of these as marketing aspects only - Have I missed something crititcal

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Re: Question

re the metal body - I can vouch for its toughness. RecentlyI posted I had a bad fall with camera in hand - bruised hands, sprains to the ankles and skinned knees etc, oh and the camera only suffered some minor scratches to the lens cover.

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No you havn't missed anything Andy. I was merely expressing my preference to a metal body camera. In my experience plastic body cameras are prone to bumps and cracks in particular on the corners of the body where they can knocked from simply walking in and out of doorways and corridors.

I too have lost cameras in rivers and I dont think it would matter what kind of camera or body you have. But for every day knocks and scrapes the metal is more durable. Quite simply really!
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Re: Question

The answer from Mark Thackara of Olympus at the Calumet event with Barry Lategan and the deal that was available clinched it.

I went for the E-3

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Well Done

Hope it works out better than your past experience.


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No you havn't missed anything Andy. I was merely expressing my preference to a metal body camera. In my experience plastic body cameras are prone to bumps and cracks in particular on the corners of the body where they can knocked from simply walking in and out of doorways and corridors.

I too have lost cameras in rivers and I dont think it would matter what kind of camera or body you have. But for every day knocks and scrapes the metal is more durable. Quite simply really!
The weatherproofing is of course not absolutely necessary - lots of quality cameras don't have it - but it does afford a certain confidence to subject the camera to conditions that you perhaps otherwise wouldn't. For instance, I cannot contemplate rinsing my E510 under the running tap in a public convenience after getting it thoroughly doused in sea water - but I did just that with my E3 a couple of month's ago with no harm done!
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