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Old 27th June 2013
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Red Wattlebird basking

This Red Wattlebird was enjoying a bask in the late afternoon sun.
Ross - if you see this - note the spots on the underside of the bird's tail. They are usually lower down. Do you think this indicates a juvenile?

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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

Very nice Lyn

You guys have some cracking birds
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

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This Red Wattlebird was enjoying a bask in the late afternoon sun.
Ross - if you see this - note the spots on the underside of the bird's tail. They are usually lower down. Do you think this indicates a juvenile?
Nice photo of it Lyn. I don't necessarily think it is a juvenile unless the photo I have is of a juvenile too, but then again....



It is a back view but notice the white edge of the tail is in the same place as yours (maybe or maybe not) & might look the same from underneath. I might look up the books later to see if there are any views under the tail.

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Very nice Lyn

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Funny you should say that because that's the sound this bird quite often makes (unless you already knew that & was just getting clever with your words).

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Very nice Lyn

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Thanks Greg - as Ross says, they make a "barking" type noise. Nice birds to have in the garden.
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

[QUOTE=Ross the fiddler;236111]Nice photo of it Lyn. I don't necessarily think it is a juvenile unless the photo I have is of a juvenile too, but then again....

It is a back view but notice the white edge of the tail is in the same place as yours (maybe or maybe not) & might look the same from underneath. I might look up the books later to see if there are any views under the tail.

Thanks Ross. The wattle looks too large for a juvenile, but it was a smaller than usual bird, so I thought could be a youngster. The spots have me puzzled. You don't often see the underside of the tail in a shot, and my book shots definitely show less defined spots - running together more like scallops.
I guess the plumage could vary though.
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

This is the only 'under-tail' shot I can find in my files, Lyn.
The spots are lower down like you say and as it has no wattles then maybe it's a juvenile ...?

E-520 + 70-300mm too btw, shows just how long ago it must have been taken !
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

[QUOTE=pandora;236129]This is the only 'under-tail' shot I can find in my files, Lyn.
The spots are lower down like you say and as it has no wattles then maybe it's a juvenile ...?

Thanks for posting Mark. I think your bird is the "Little Wattlebird". A slightly smaller bird than the Red Wattlebird. They have no wattles and finer streaking on the body. Tails are similar, you can see the "scallops" on the edge of the tail that I was trying to explain to Ross. My bird's are more like spots.
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

I have just added the back view if it helps any, Lyn.
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I have just added the back view if it helps any, Lyn.
It does Mark, in as much as my "scallops" are obviously white edges on the wingtips. I am thinking now that my bird's spots may be just out of place feathers? Perhaps? OR the backlighting on the tail may be playing tricks.
I like your shot too.
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

I'm starting to get the idea that Lyn, your bird might be a juvenile with the tail feathers still growing. I couldn't find a similar angled shot amongst my lot & what I did have seemed like the tail feathers should extend more like the Little Wattlebird has from other photos I have of this one & Marks.
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I'm starting to get the idea that Lyn, your bird might be a juvenile with the tail feathers still growing. I couldn't find a similar angled shot amongst my lot & what I did have seemed like the tail feathers should extend more like the Little Wattlebird has from other photos I have of this one & Marks.
Thanks again Ross. I think now it is a juvenile. Another little clue is that last season I observed a couple of very young birds in our yard. This could well be one of them, with as you say, tail feathers still growing.
I remember seeing your shots and it was a great set.
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

Nice image Lyn I'm afraid I couldn't say if it was a juvenile or not.

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It does Mark, in as much as my "scallops" are obviously white edges on the wingtips. I am thinking now that my bird's spots may be just out of place feathers? Perhaps? OR the backlighting on the tail may be playing tricks.
I like your shot too.
Good to know that the little wattlebird may have cleared up the question of the misplaced spots, albeot a related species.
Which raises the question, why did some wattlebirds evolve with red wattles, some with yellow and the another with none?
The little one shot in Tas while I was learning that I don't have the patience for birding!
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Re: Red Wattlebird basking

Attractive bird to be able to observe in your garden, and lovely clear image too.
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Good to know that the little wattlebird may have cleared up the question of the misplaced spots, albeot a related species.
Which raises the question, why did some wattlebirds evolve with red wattles, some with yellow and the another with none?
The little one shot in Tas while I was learning that I don't have the patience for birding!
The Creator ran out of the red wattles & didn't have as much dough left over, so made them smaller (Little) instead.
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