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Photomatix?

I have tried Photomatix and I find the images flat and uninteresting, there is a loss of sharpness and increase in background patterning which I find objectionable. I think better results can be obtained by image blending with layers where you can be totally selective. I wonder if I am alone in this. I just looked at the Perfectportrait website which prompted me to start this thread.
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Re: Photomatix?

Hi Glen,

Are you using a single raw and then using Photomatix to psuedo a hdr image?
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Re: Photomatix?

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Are you using a single raw and then using Photomatix to psuedo a hdr image?
No 3 exposures. -1, +1, 0, taken from Raw.
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Re: Photomatix?

Funky, I've noticed a lot of noise can be introduced by psuedo 1 raw file.

When I shot for HDR/Tone mapping (most of the time) I normally use jpgs and only notice noise on the longer exposures. My camera is normally set to SHQ+RAW, I bin the under and overexposed RAW and keep the correctly exposed one, leaving me with 4 files in total (3 jpgs and 1 raw)

For good high dynamic range its best to use 0, -2, +2, although I have used the camera AEB to shoot 3 files with 0, -1, +1.

Still this doesn't explain the noise issue. I'll have a play when I get home tonight.

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No 3 exposures. -1, +1, 0, taken from Raw.
Just re-read that, being a bit slow today (first day back at work) am I right in saying you shot 1 RAW and then post process it to produce the 3 exposures in which to load into Photomatix?
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Re: Photomatix?

This is the difference I have found. Same base files.

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Just re-read that, being a bit slow today (first day back at work) am I right in saying you shot 1 RAW and then post process it to produce the 3 exposures in which to load into Photomatix?
No I shot 3 RAW +1, -1, 0. converted to tiff and used in Photomatix Pro. I just got Photography Monthly Mag . The HDR on the cover leaves me cold. Must be me!
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Re: Photomatix?

hmm I see what you mean, any chance you could email me the base files so I can have a play, if you don't mind me be so cheeky? (garrie@daydesigns.co.uk)

The below picture was tonemapped in photomatix and doesn't appear imho that flat and uninteresting. (taken by my partner) I could forward you the HDR mapping settings file if you like?

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Re: Photomatix?

Your image is very good but is obviously HDR. Loses some sparkle for me. I started this thread after looking a Professional Portrait Pro. I thought all the portraits on their website looked like plastic people. Other people like them I think the tonemapped images look unreal to me. Perhaps I will try +2,-2, 0.
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Re: Photomatix?

Fair enough, I really like tone mapped images yet I'm the first to admit I like to overcook them sometimes and enjoy the "gritty" tone I can get, granted it doesn't work for all shots.

I personally think your tonemapped image via photomatix could be worked on to produce a more pleasing result.

I've not taken a look at Professional Portrait Pro as protrait ain't really my thing, one mans meat is anothers poison

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Re: Photomatix?

I think HDR has been promoted as some kind of wonder solution to the limitation of Digital. In its place it is a useful tool but not the only one which seems to be getting forgotten. I sent you the images. Feel free to post the result. It is only a record image.
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Re: Photomatix?

This is a bit better .
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Re: Photomatix?

I'm liking that..

Here is my attempt

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Re: Photomatix?

here is my gritty attempt, not to too many peoples liking at all but its good for explores and industrial scenes.. You'll hate it no doubt but its what makes us different


Didn't straighten the image in the above shot

Noticed 1 thing in the EXIF data, the F stop, I wouldn't have had the lens so fully open but thats personal choice I guess

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Re: Photomatix?

Would be OK for an industrial scene, I still prefer my effort in PS layers overall. I can see where it would have an application but for effect. I use Neat Image for some High ISO shots they can look very bland sometimes. Comes back to horses for courses I suppose. Thanks for your input.
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