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How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

I am a light sleeper and last night at 2 am, I was disturbed by a noise outside of the bedroom. When I looked out, it was a Mongoose foraging through the flower beds. Very quietly, I opened the bedroom window and switched the camera on. Even though the flower beds are illuminated, the light wasn’t enough for a clear photo. I set the camera to “M”, pushed the ISO up to 3200, f4.1, but it wasn’t enough as everything was still too dark. I didn’t really want to use a flash and scare the Mongoose away.

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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

It's most unlikely that the flash will scare the Mongoose although it it's any significant away getting the flash to throw that far will be challenging.
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It's most unlikely that the flash will scare the Mongoose although it it's any significant away getting the flash to throw that far will be challenging.
Thank you for helping. I did a test shot from the bedroom window with the flash on using a phone. In the photo to the right of the illuminated pool, the Mongoose hunts the bushes. Sometimes there are two Honey tailed Mongooses and it would be nice to be able to capture a shot of them. My apologies for the very poor quality of the photo and the noise.

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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

What lens do you have on and why f4.1?

Why not try a shot in the night with the biggest aperture with and without the flash.
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What lens do you have on and why f4.1?

Why not try a shot in the night with the biggest aperture with and without the flash.
Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-150mm F4.0-5.6 II

I have two M.Zuiko lenses. The one above and the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7 II Lens

The 14-150mm is the lens I had on the camera. Can you please advise on ISO, shutter speed and aperture settings? Do you have any Mongoose where you live? If so, your opinion about using a flash? Would the flash going off frighten the animal?

I don’t want to scare the Mongooses away, as it’s reassuring to see them. We get snakes up by the house and sometimes inside. Thank you
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Not sure I'd want to point the flash directly at the Mongoose (at least not if the Mongoose could get at me - I hear they're vicious little buggers), so yes you would need something to bounce the flash off. Also.... depending on the size of the area a higher guide number (wouldn't fancy the chances of my FL-36).
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Hi Phil. I have found that video is good for low lighting photography. But there has to be some light of course for focus etc. My other suggestion is to use a Trail camera. They put out an infra-red or UV (I think) light to light up the scene. They can work in still photo mode and /or video. They work well for my hedgehog stuff. Alas I only have video of him so cannot show you a piccie. Downside is that the photos and black and white, unless there is reasonable light around...….
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Hi Phil. I have found that video is good for low lighting photography. But there has to be some light of course for focus etc. My other suggestion is to use a Trail camera. They put out an infra-red or UV (I think) light to light up the scene. They can work in still photo mode and /or video. They work well for my hedgehog stuff. Alas I only have video of him so cannot show you a piccie. Downside is that the photos and black and white, unless there is reasonable light around...….
Hi Mark, thanks for the advice. I had not thought about using a video. I have a Sony Video which has a night shot facility where everything comes out in black n white because of the IR. I was hoping to use an Olympus brand, but what I have is fairly limited. I am flying to the UK in 2 weeks time for 3 - 4 months and could look out for a trail camera, is there one you can suggest? We have not seen any dangerous snakes up at the house for several months and I think its because the Mongooses are eating them or scaring the snakes away. You have lived in Africa and your insights are appreciated. Thank you very much.
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Hi Mark, thanks for the advice. I had not thought about using a video. I have a Sony Video which has a night shot facility where everything comes out in black n white because of the IR. I was hoping to use an Olympus brand, but what I have is fairly limited. I am flying to the UK in 2 weeks time for 3 - 4 months and could look out for a trail camera, is there one you can suggest? We have not seen any dangerous snakes up at the house for several months and I think its because the Mongooses are eating them or scaring the snakes away. You have lived in Africa and your insights are appreciated. Thank you very much.
https://www.ukwildlifecameras.co.uk/...eras_C135.html

Phil, I bought a Browning Trail Camera (not a gun!!) off these people in the link above.

They have a super range of Trail cameras to suit your pocket and circumstances. I can recommend them...………



A photo taken off a video shows the quality...……..
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Phil, I bought a Browning Trail Camera (not a gun!!) off these people in the link above.

They have a super range of Trail cameras to suit your pocket and circumstances. I can recommend them...………

A photo taken off a video shows the quality...……..
Hi Mark, thank you for the link and for the sample video photo. I liked the clarity from the still you captured. I looked at the website for wild life cameras. Lots of reading and decision making. We had CCTV at the house in London which had wifi so I could keep an eye on the house whilst I was in Kenya. I left the CCTV behind when I moved from London to Bristol last November. It came with hard drive and a 500MB memory, which lasted for 3 months before it rolled over. I left the cameras up on the house and took the hard drive with me to Bristol. My wife said I was not to go up the ladder to remove the cameras. I obeyed

What sort of memory do you have on yours?
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https://www.ukwildlifecameras.co.uk/...eras_C135.html

Phil, I bought a Browning Trail Camera (not a gun!!) off these people in the link above.

They have a super range of Trail cameras to suit your pocket and circumstances. I can recommend them...………



A photo taken off a video shows the quality...……..
It looks much better than the cheap one I bought. Which model is it?

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It looks much better than the cheap one I bought. Which model is it?

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Its a BTC-SHDP....cost £150 or so I think. Yes quality very good. I tend to video. This still shot was extracted from the video...…..
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Its a BTC-SHDP....cost £150 or so I think. Yes quality very good. I tend to video. This still shot was extracted from the video...…..
Hmm - I checked on the site and it isn't listed.

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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Looks like that site does not do Browning any more.

From the Browning web site (USA) they offer a BTC-5HDP, Maybe I misread the label, I will check....(I did)

https://browningtrailcameras.com/pro...20710747734129

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On Ebay for £131.99

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BROWNING-...gAAOSw70NdBlre
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Mongoose's were introduced to Hawaii many years ago. They scurry around the bushes during the day, unsure of their prey in Hawaii...……

Scraggy things really...…...

http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/hisc/info/inv...iles/mongoose/
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