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Re: Stop The World I Absolutely Must get Off

For all the horror, it is vital to keep a sense of proportion and of genuine relative risk.

These events are very, very unlikely to kill or injure any of us, certainly in comparison with the other, more familiar risks that we ignore every day because they are more familiar or else they kill and injure slowly.

We are all tens of times more likely to be run over than to suffer terrorist injury in virtually any country in the world. Anyone who smokes, or drinks much more than the recommended number of units per week, basically disqualifies themselves from any concerns over terrorism!

This is a very good article from yesterday's Independent which goes against all the horror-rousing splashed over all the front pages:

http://edition.independent.co.uk/edi...436/index.html

We need to carry on with our lives and counter the irrational panic that intends to divide society: we all die a little every time we don't.
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Re: Stop The World I Absolutely Must get Off

I have coined a two word phrase that sums it up - 'Humanity Insanity' or inversely, 'Insanity Humanity' - try reciting it as a mantra of madness as the world goes haywire. It helps ...
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For all the horror, it is vital to keep a sense of proportion and of genuine relative risk.

These events are very, very unlikely to kill or injure any of us, certainly in comparison with the other, more familiar risks that we ignore every day because they are more familiar or else they kill and injure slowly.

We are all tens of times more likely to be run over than to suffer terrorist injury in virtually any country in the world. Anyone who smokes, or drinks much more than the recommended number of units per week, basically disqualifies themselves from any concerns over terrorism!

This is a very good article from yesterday's Independent which goes against all the horror-rousing splashed over all the front pages:

http://edition.independent.co.uk/edi...436/index.html

We need to carry on with our lives and counter the irrational panic that intends to divide society: we all die a little every time we don't.

This is an extremely valid point.

I remember after the Ladbrook Grove train crash (and the inevitable press coverage) that many people said they were too scared to travel by train any more, and would drive to work instead.

Ladbrook Grove was an horrific accident, but so are many car crashes. There is a much, much greater risk of being involved in a road traffic accident than a train or plane crash.

Alternatively, we could all stay at home. But then bathrooms and kitchens are dangerous places too. Where does it end?
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And most people die in bed!

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And most people die in bed!

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Probably the best way to go, depending upon whom you are with!
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At our age who's choosy, John.
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At our age who's choosy, John.
So long as they have a pulse.
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Misogynist!
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Probably the best way to go, depending upon whom you are with!
The reason for your sudden departure might be getting caught with someone you shouldn't be with!

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Misogynist!
There was no mention of gender....
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With world population of 11Bn forecast and mass migration towards the temperate regions, people, nations will be fighting for the ever decreasing supply of food, water and energy - and religion won't have gone away.

Assuming there is a God, why doesn't he, she or it make it clear to humanity that there is only one God and to stop fighting. While he's at it, God could say he doesn't expect worship of any kind, just crack on and enjoy life.
Interesting point. Many people blame religion for the troubles in today's world, but that about is as logical as blaming the Wright Brothers for 911, or Henry Ford for last week's atrocity in Nice.

The fact is that many people have already turned their backs on religion and 'God', but the problems have become worse; not better. Indeed, many theologians would argue that it is because we have turned our backs on 'God' that we have lost sight of what is important in life, and have instead devoted ourselves to material goods, possessions and personal gain.

Organised religions are not without their faults, and it is certainly true that many atrocities are carried out in the name of religions (rather than because of them); but the individuals concerned invariably have a very warped view of scripture (assuming they have even read the scriptures concerned), and all too often have serious mental health issues. These same people would probably have been incarcerated in mental asylums in previous times (before 'care in the community') along with many thousands of others who should never have been there, including unmarried girls who became pregnant.

However, the real problem, in my view, is the internet and social media, which has given a voice to the ignorant, as well as to racist bigots and all kinds of nutters who would be better not listened to. Normal, balanced individuals will either ignore these people, or will try to engage with them; usually with little success in my experience. However, there will always be a small minority of impressionable people who will listen to such vile outpourings without question, and may even try to act out their violent ideology.

Add to this the proliferation of violent movies and computer games which 'normalise' violence in the minds of the impressionable few and we have a perfect recipe for the kind of atrocities that we have seen all too much of in recent months.

I also believe the media have a lot to answer for, publishing and broadcasting all kinds of trivia and salacious gossip 'in the public interest', or perhaps because it sells more newspapers.

It is quite right that our elected officials should be held to account for their actions and inactions, but right now we know far more about the minutiae of their personal lives than we need to, and far more than is good for us or them. This only services to undermine public trust; often for no good reason in my view.

So whilst the media were obsessing over MP's sexual antics and expenses claims they allowed a 'squeaky clean family man' Prime Minister to take us to war for no good reason.

Where was the public interest there?
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they allowed a 'squeaky clean family man' Prime Minister to take us to war for no good reason.
You left out "devotely religious".

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You left out "devotely religious".

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Good point, but I don't think Tony Blair's war in Iraq had anything to do with Roman Catholicism; more his awe of one George W Bush and his craving to be remembered as a great war leader along with Churchill and Maggie Thatcher, (who, coincidentally, saw her commons majority significantly increase following the Falklands War).
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Good point, but I don't think Tony Blair's war in Iraq had anything to do with Roman Catholicism; more his awe of one George W Bush and his craving to be remembered as a great war leader along with Churchill and Maggie Thatcher, (who, coincidentally, saw her commons majority significantly increase following the Falklands War).
I was referring to religion in general.

Bush claimed to be on God's mission. I don't know how Blair related to that.

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