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Harbours

One of my camera club's competitions this coming year has the subject 'Harbours'. This is one I'm considering. Of an evening we occasionally go down to Port Seton for a fish supper and enjoy the beautiful light. So I take the camera. I may stick up a few other possibles here but I welcome criticism on this to start with.

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Re: Harbours

Again an untrained eye (read complete novice) I love everything about that but the lampost.

Esp like the ship in the far distance and the way the light is on teh treads of the stairs, the rope handrail and the life bouy.
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Re: Harbours

Must admit the lampost does dominate, probably because of the rather intimidating security lamps. The other elements compliment each other very nicely, although I might have been tempted to get a bit lower to exclude the small portion of ocean. Despite what I say about the post, it is still a strong image in attractive lighting.
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Re: Harbours

I love the angles in this one. I like the little bit of ocean parallel to the wall, the stairs and the contrasting arches and chains.
Not sure about that lamp post. Will be interesting to read what others think - it seems a bit off to me and I would lose the bird!
Probably not much help Duncan - but I do like the shot.
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Re: Harbours

I would clone the lamp post out to create a contrast (without distractions) between the whispy clouds and the angular harbour. Also a contrast between the warm colours on the stone and the cool colours of the sky
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Re: Harbours

Very good interpretation of a theme in my opinion, Duncan. I do agree with John that the lampost is a dominant feature, but the fact that there is a Gull sat on it sort of excused that! I would also have either fully included or removed the green netting to the right of the image as it presently causes some confusion to the edge of the frame.

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Re: Harbours

It's a very nice image Duncan, but you just know a camera club judge even if he does not comment on the lights is going to say "it's a shame the gull is looking out of the the frame instead of into it"
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Re: Harbours

Thank you all for your comments.
I like the lamp post as I think it connects the sky with the sea wall. The Gull is icing on the cake.
The green netting I didn't spot when I took it but there is a lot in the harbour either stored or stretched out for repair.
I feel it needs the strip of ocean to confirm it is a harbour.
I also like the hard edges of the steps complemented by the arches and the curve of the handrail.
The sky was superb and there is often a cracker of a sky here.

The judge will probably pick up on the netting, lamp post and gull.
So on that basis I would think it will get 17 or 18 out of 20.

This got 16 or 17 in two judgings.
One judge liked the figures, one didn't. One liked the 'avenue' of light to the sea, the other didn't.One thought the sky interesting, one thought it dull.



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Re: Harbours

I love that, the "avenue of light" is truly just that.

(p.s. I have no knowledge re photography and it is things like the avenue of light thing that, when pointed out, are making me understand why some pictures give me that "wow" factor, thanks for posting your images for scrutiny, it must be daunting but really valuable for newbies like me.

rant over.)
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Re: Harbours

Just proves that old saying that "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Duncan!

Be boring if we all liked the same!

I like the avenue of light & the figures.

I recently posted a photo in which a mast was crooked and received gentle thought that it should be straightened.

My thinking was that with these sort of shots there is always motion and masts come in all angles.

Will be interesting to read what others think.

Be sure to let us know the judges verdict on "Harbours".

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Re: Harbours

Duncan, judges are human and judge subjectively - in matters of art there's no other way.

That said, here is a subjective edit..
* Relocate ship.
* Crop left tightens composition
* Distort groundplane to level
* Sharpen 75%

The image is different and curiously compelling - depending upon the likes of the judge/s it should do well.
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