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Old 25th January 2019
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New Flash system

As everyone has got themselves embroiled in the new EM-1x and the rumoured 150-400, has no-one got anything to say about the new flash units launched yesterday as well?

FL‑700WR
This high performance flash features a dust‑, splash‑ and freezeproof (‑10°C) construction in a compact and lightweight housing. When combined with the weather sealed cameras of the OM‑D series, and M.Zuiko PRO lenses, you do not need to worry about shooting in harsh environments.
This high‑intensity flagship flash comes with a maximum guide number of 42, while the combination of the camera's built‑in image processor (TruePic) with the TTL synchronization technology enables optimal lighting during your photo shootings.
As the flash is equipped with a wireless lightning mode you can make use of high‑intensity multi‑flash photography via wireless control up to a distance of 30m, which enables you to control up to 3 flash groups and an unlimited number of flash units, to select whether a group fires or not, to compensate for the flash output, and to adjust various settings. One other very well accepted extra is the slave function‑ you can simply attach the flash to the hot shoe of a camera and use it as the master flash while using the commander function.
Of course the unique Olympus High Res. Shot, Focus Stacking, and Focus Bracketing functions are supported too and shorter shooting intervals than before are now available! The FL‑700WR is equipped with an LED light for movies, which is effective for shooting OM‑D Movies in low light or backlit conditions.

FR‑WR Flash Receiver
The FR‑WR sync terminal can be used to connect commercial flash units, such as a monoblock flash, which can then be remotely fired. As is the case with the FL‑700WR flash, a dust‑, splash‑, and freezeproof (‑10°C) construction allows use in a variety of fields. With the FR‑WR charging completion indication emits an an electronic sound, when flash charging is completed.
Groups and channels can easily be set and checked with dials on the FR‑WR.

FC‑WR Flash Commander
The FC‑WR can control multiple flash units remotely from the camera, enabling versatile wireless flash photography.
As is the case with the FL‑700WR flash, a dust‑, splash‑, and freezeproof (‑10°C) construction allows use in a variety of fields. The commander can connect to three groups and an unlimited number of flash units.
The FC‑WR has independent buttons for group A, B, and C, making it possible to quickly configure settings for each group as well as adjusting the shooting mode and flash intensity while looking at the monitor.
Groups and channels can easily be set and checked with dials on the FC‑WR.
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Re: New Flash system

Just so rarely use flash these days. In my Pentax days, I used it quite often as a fill in when photoing in sunlight. Now the cameras don't have a handy pop up flash, its easier to turn people around to face the sun that to dig out the flash....
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Re: New Flash system

FL-700WR £329.99 Flash
FC-WR £279.99 Wireless Commander
FR-WR £179.99 Wireless Receiver

So £609.98 for a single off camera flash. Form a queue here.
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Re: New Flash system

I'm not clear from that description whether the units communicate by radio signals, or by the system of optical preflashes used currently, or some other means. Also interested to know whether it fully supports RC mode, which seems in principle a good way to control flashes. RC mode has 4 channels, not 3 I think.
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Re: New Flash system

My understanding is that these units use radio signals and not optical ( I supose they could use both for integration with existing flashes but I have not seen this mentioned).
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Re: New Flash system

The latest firmware updates for the m43 bodies say "Wireless radiowave commander FC-WR is now supported", which does suggest radio rather than optical communication. But of course if the description was written by a marketing rather than a technical bod, all bets are off!

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Re: New Flash system

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FL-700WR £329.99 Flash
FC-WR £279.99 Wireless Commander
FR-WR £179.99 Wireless Receiver

So £609.98 for a single off camera flash. Form a queue here.
Yes, but the equivalent power Canon Pro flash is almost exactly the same price - https://store.canon.co.uk/canon-spee...eedliteflashes

I don’t know enough about the systems to compare commander/receiver prices, but this looks to be the going rate, and the Oly one has a wider operating temperature range.
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Re: New Flash system

With a very large investment in FL50 & 36 Rs, I would not be able to justify the change. Plus my existing RC triggers work very well
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Re: New Flash system

The best flash system I have ever used is Nikon, not that it's relevant

I was near to purchasing the Macro Flash STF-8, £400-450, but on investigation I was finding reports like this.....
Good success using the flash in a limited way when taking single images.
There is a large question mark hanging over 'focus-bracketing/stacking' which I use a lot, hand held.
Also balancing flash with ambient via TTL metering is questionable I have read.
It's difficult I'm finding to get definitive answers, so I'm staying clear.

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Re: New Flash system

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I'm not clear from that description whether the units communicate by radio signals, or by the system of optical preflashes used currently, or some other means. Also interested to know whether it fully supports RC mode, which seems in principle a good way to control flashes. RC mode has 4 channels, not 3 I think.
Previous models have had remote control, via pre-flash, not radio control. It seems that this new one has radio control "for bright conditions", which would make it incompatible with the older units.

I have to say that, using my 36-R in preference to my 50-R, I am not tempted by this new system, not least that it would seem not to work with my existing R units. If it is the start of a new system, I hope they include a tilting one, like the 600-R, which is invaluable for macro.

With my A7R is use the Nissin Air 1 system, which has both forms of remote control. Versions are available for Olympus.

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Re: New Flash system

Flash is a pretty specialist technique these days and arguably less necessary given better ISO performance and the increasing capability of continuous lighting.
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Flash is a pretty specialist technique these days
I would expect fill flash to have the same function as ever and macro certainly does.

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Re: New Flash system

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Of course the unique Olympus Focus Stacking, and Focus Bracketing functions are supported too
Don't think so. Got burned by that with the STF-8, which headlines "Focus stacking and bracketing compatible**" on the Oly Web site. Failed to hunt down the little "**" at purchase.... It reads, in 6 point font and light light grey text, "**Focus stacking and braketing [sic] only in manual mode".
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