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MJ224 27th July 2019 08:12 AM

60mm Macro
 
I recently acquired the 60mm Macro lens from Lizzie Shepherd.

Playing with the lens now. Macro has never really been one of my tools, except with a telephoto lens.

How do you get any DoF with the 1:1 option? No doubt a fairly specialised subject I guess. Photo stacking might work, with a tripod to hold the camera/ lens steady...

Any photo tips appreciated...………….*chr

Phill D 27th July 2019 08:45 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
I nearly got a 60mm macro the other day too Mark but just couldn't agree a price with the seller. Looking at a DoF calculator then at 60mm, f2.8 and a subject distance of 19cm the DoF is only 0.06cm. As you said pretty small! I guess people tend to use flash to be able to open up the aperture at f8 the DoF would be 1.6 mm. Stacking certainly does seem to be your friend with this lens especially if you don't want to use flash.

mik 27th July 2019 08:51 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
I use flash so i can go to about f8 and keep a low iso and shutter speed, ok this was on a Panasonic G80 but i used the Ollympus60mm


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cb92149b_o.jpgP1010095 by electric.mike, on Flickr

mik 27th July 2019 08:58 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Here is one from an Olympus,iused f10 for this


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6ea994aa_o.jpgp6090013_41788758385_o by electric.mike, on Flickr

MikeOxon 27th July 2019 09:26 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
I have an article about stacking with the 60mm on my website at: http://home.btconnect.com/mike.flemming/stacking.html
I must update it for the latest firmware, which now allows more stacking steps.

wornish 27th July 2019 09:54 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
I find that when using the 60mm macro on little critters it's better to use as fast a shutter speed as possible by pushing the ISO up to 800 or 1600 or more to try and reduce blurring caused by small movements. As already shown using a higher aperture does helps improve depth of field but it's still not very much when you are so close as Phill D says above. Pushing the aperture beyond F11 does improve the DOF but diffraction distortion starts to blur the overall image.

Beagletorque 27th July 2019 11:26 AM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it except add more f!
Download a Dof calc on your phone and see what you can expect.

MikeOxon 27th July 2019 12:53 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beagletorque (Post 486365)
Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it ..................


except stacking *chr

Wally 27th July 2019 12:59 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Probably a wee bit late in the day... but look up reverse lens macro.

In a previous life whilst a member on another togging forum, we had a chap from Malasia who turned out stunning macro shots. The detail, in a word was... :eek: "WOW".

The added bonus, is that you may already have an assortment of lens that can be used via a reversal ring = chirpy, chirpy cheep, cheep macro and the dosh stays in the wallet. :tup

Walti 27th July 2019 01:03 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beagletorque (Post 486365)
Dof is just math, nothing you can do about it except add more f!
Download a Dof calc on your phone and see what you can expect.

Don’t you mean mathS?

Beagletorque 27th July 2019 03:11 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walti (Post 486376)
Don’t you mean mathS?

Not now we're the 51st state.

Harold Gough 30th July 2019 07:42 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ224 (Post 486351)
I recently acquired the 60mm Macro lens from Lizzie Shepherd.

Playing with the lens now. Macro has never really been one of my tools, except with a telephoto lens.

How do you get any DoF with the 1:1 option? No doubt a fairly specialised subject I guess. Photo stacking might work, with a tripod to hold the camera/ lens steady...

Any photo tips appreciated...………….*chr

F8 or, more often, f11.

Harold

Harold Gough 30th July 2019 08:01 PM

Re: 60mm Macro
 
I do all my flash (fill) macro in Manual Mode. Your flash duration is your exposure not your shutter speed.

Use the highest shutter speed to prevent ghosting from daylight. If you want to use low ISO make sure it is not so low as to allow ghosting.

If you set the shutter speed to higher than the flash sync speed it will change accordingly when you turn the flash on.

f11 is my standard aperture but 8, 9 & 10 also feature. I don't do much at 1:1, where f8 will probably mostly do the job. For something like dragonflies you need f11 to get the wingspan or entire body in focus, if that is what you want. I specify the aperture on all my posted images, many with my 50mm, others with x2 TC behind it.

I have button Fn1 set to focus peaking and Fn2 to DOF preview. Aperture is on the front dial and shutter speed on the rear dial.

This is on the EM-1 original and is not lens-specific.

Harold


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