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Dave in Wales 9th November 2015 11:16 AM

The enigma that is the 25mm
 
OK, 'Here he goes again' I hear you all groan, but these two lenses are bugging me.

Oly 25 f1.8.
Review available.
Price till the new year 229 (after 50 cash back) then 279.

Panny 25 f1.7.
Review UN-available, yet.
Pre-order price in UK 159.

Comparative reviews are therefore UN-available.

The 'bugging-me' bit....

Is the Panny 159 a come and buy me, short term price, later to be increased to nearer the Oly?

Will the Oly 279 be reduced to nearer an increased Panny price of ????

Should one bite the bullet and buy the Oly before the 50 cash back expires?

And what of comparative IQ.

One things for sure..."I'll never hang meself" :confused:

benvendetta 9th November 2015 12:32 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I bought the 25mm f1.8 soon after it was released. But I used it as much as I used my Zuiko 50mm f1.8 in my film days (not a lot) and decided to sell it on. It is a very sharp lens but the focal length was just too 'normal' for me. The 12-40 f2.8 covers the 25mm focal length adequately. If I was buying this focal length prime again, I would certainly go for the Oly as it is so tiny and unobtrusive.
I suppose the question that you should ask yourself is how much you think you would use the lens. I should have done this before I bought mine.......

Graham_of_Rainham 9th November 2015 12:59 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
If you really are into "standard" lens then the PanLeica 25mm f/1.4 is excellent. :)

AMc 9th November 2015 05:51 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I'm eyeing these two lenses with a view to buy, several places have the Panasonic 25mm F1.7 in stock now at 160.
The PanLeica looks lovely but it's substantially more than the Olympus and much, much more than the F1.7.
I keep googling for reviews but for now I'm sitting on my hands hoping to see a review or 2 for the cheap Panasonic.
The fact that I could drive to WEX down the road and buy it isn't any problem at all :)

Dave in Wales 10th November 2015 09:49 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 365547)
If you really are into "standard" lens then the PanLeica 25mm f/1.4 is excellent. :)

I've had this lens, the inability of the hood to reverse for stowage drove me mad.

yorky 10th November 2015 11:28 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I keep thinking about the oly 25 but can't quite make my mind up between that and the 17mm. currently I find I am using the 45mm 1.8 more than anything else?

AMc 10th November 2015 12:15 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I have the F2.8 17mm Olympus - which I like but seem to seldom use?
I have the F1.8 45mm Olympus - which I love esp. for its low light performance but is often too long e.g. taking pictures of special meals at a restaurant which is why either the Olympus F1.8 or Panasonic F1.7 at 25mm really appeal.
I'll probably end up getting the Panasonic for Christmas as the Olympus is too much even with cashback.

Kiwi Paul 10th November 2015 01:18 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 365547)
If you really are into "standard" lens then the PanLeica 25mm f/1.4 is excellent. :)

I have that lens and love it, excellent IQ and I even like the size and weight.

Paul

Graham_of_Rainham 10th November 2015 02:42 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave in Wales (Post 365667)
I've had this lens, the inability of the hood to reverse for stowage drove me mad.

The 14-42 EZ fits perfectly inside the hood, so it all fits in the bag very nicely... :D

PeterBirder 10th November 2015 03:04 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMc (Post 365681)
I have the F2.8 17mm Olympus - which I like but seem to seldom use?
I have the F1.8 45mm Olympus - which I love esp. for its low light performance but is often too long e.g. taking pictures of special meals at a restaurant which is why either the Olympus F1.8 or Panasonic F1.7 at 25mm really appeal.
I'll probably end up getting the Panasonic for Christmas as the Olympus is too much even with cashback.

But the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 which was announced on 16 July as "under development" is still not available and nothing much is known about its performance apart from an outline spec. This is the reason for Dave's post and his current angst. Contrary to your earlier post the lens is not "in stock" with UK retailers but is listed by some as "pre-order" with no indication of likely availability date and no reviews have yet been seen.

I have the Olympus 45mm, 25mm and 17mm lenses which are all superb for the types of photography to which they are apropriate. It can as yet only be a matter of speculation as to how good the lower priced Panasonic will be in practice.

Regards *chr

Olybirder 10th November 2015 04:24 PM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I haven't used the Olympus 25mm but I have just been looking at Robin Wong's review of it and it is obviously an excellent lens. In fact he goes so far as to say that it is as sharp as, if not sharper than, the 45mm f1.8, which is praise indeed.

I think it is unlikely that the Panasonic 25mm will perform much, if any, better than the Olympus, so it is really a personal decision on how important the 70 difference in price is to you. It is always difficult working out the best time to by photographic equipment and I always seem to get it wrong. Incidentally, looking at Camerapricebuster today the cheapest price for the Olympus lens appears to be 284.99, so perhaps the price is rising, rather than falling. ;)

I was originally going to make a clever remark about remembering to factor in the cost of a lens hood with the Olympus lens but I see that it actually comes with one. I will never understand Olympus's policy on lens hoods. It seems to be a complete lottery whether you get one with your lens or not.

Good luck with your decision Dave.

Ron

AMc 11th November 2015 09:42 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterBirder (Post 365696)
But the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 which was announced on 16 July as "under development" is still not available and nothing much is known about its performance apart from an outline spec. This is the reason for Dave's post and his current angst. Contrary to your earlier post the lens is not "in stock" with UK retailers but is listed by some as "pre-order" with no indication of likely availability date and no reviews have yet been seen.

I've been stalking this lens it IS in stock at Wex photographic
"Order within 8 hours 49 minutes for Delivery on Thursday 12th November"
http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-p...s-fit/p1581406
The black version came into stock and then sold out at the same retailer.

In another forum someone has just pointed out that the Panasonic Leica F1.4 25mm can be bought for 250 on eBay (grey import but UK shipped).

The Olympus F1.8 seems to have gone up a bit recently - presumably because you can get 50 cashback at the moment.

A comparative review would be really helpful!

mstphoto 11th November 2015 10:13 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
I'm tempted by a silver 25 f1.8 to match my 12mm & 45mm primes.
Time will tell ;)

What I find puzzling is that the Canon nifty fifty f1.8 can be bought for around 80 new - less than a third of the pre cashback price of the Olympus :eek::eek::eek:

Mike

mstphoto 11th November 2015 10:17 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMc (Post 365781)
I've been stalking this lens it IS in stock at Wex photographic
"Order within 8 hours 49 minutes for Delivery on Thursday 12th November"
http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-p...s-fit/p1581406
A comparative review would be really helpful!

That's a more realistic price!! *yes
Yes, a comparative review would make interesting reading

Mike

MarkG 11th November 2015 10:35 AM

Re: The enigma that is the 25mm
 
The Panasonic 25mm f/1.4 was my favourite lens before it got stolen. You get lovely bokeh with it, and is great for taking pictures when out with friends. I tried the Oly 45mm again the other week instead of the 12-40 f2.8 which i find quite heavy and bulky for carrying around, but found I had to go miles back to get people in frame.


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