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Simon Bee 18th September 2019 09:23 PM

Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
..... think again,

there is SO MUCH choice these days it's hard to know where to start :eek:

Still got my favourites and so much new stock to choose from. I know film is not for everyone but there surely can be no denying now that it's here to stay for many years to come *yes

Cinestill colour & B+W plus Kodak Portra 160 are my favourites right now, however I must and will try some of the others too.

If you have a few minutes to spare it's well worth looking at the link below, if only from an education standpoint.

Simon

https://analoguewonderland.co.uk/collections/all

blu-by-u 19th September 2019 06:46 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
These days of digital, I still cannot understand why the need to use analog film.

First there is the environmental issue of chemicals used :o then there is the wait for the roll to complete before processing. :eek: After processing there is the requirement of scanning. My question , :eek: will the color rendition be limited to that of the scanner?

My advice to some young photographers who wants to buy a film camera and try shooting film. Just Lock the ISO to the 200, 400 or 800, lock WB Sunlight, turn that AF to single spot, Turn that LCD to inside, Preview to OFF. Don't chimping, single shutter. Then wait after 36 exposures before only looking at then 1 week later. :D

So it's a No for me. No film I enjoy digital and I am not turning back ;)

I had my fair share of finding my shots either totally ruin by over or under exposed, totally blank because the film did not advance, total wash out because I accidentally open the back with it it rewinded, empty roll because I forgot to remove the lens cap. A whole roll all very yellow because I forgot to remove a yellow filter and that is just some of the faults that I can remember.

MJ224 19th September 2019 07:41 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Kinda agree with Henry, BUT I still enjoy driving old cars, without CD players, parking sensors, auto headlights, and usually a slight petrol smell...……….

Just whatever lights your fuse...……………….*chr*chr

Graham_of_Rainham 19th September 2019 08:34 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blu-by-u (Post 489882)
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My advice : Just Lock the ISO to the 200, 400 or 800, lock WB Sunlight, turn that AF to single spot, Turn that LCD to inside, Preview to OFF...

That’s pretty much what my camera is setup like... :cool:

But I keep it set to iAuto when in the bag for grab shots, much like leaving the old film cameras to 125, f/8, with the lens set at hyper focal distance.

“Being nostalgic is not as good as it was in the past” ;)

blu-by-u 19th September 2019 08:38 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 489891)
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But I keep it set to iAuto when in the bag for grab shots, much like leaving the old film cameras to 125, f/8, with the lens set at hyper focal distance.
.... ;)

iAuro..I need to remember that.:o

Naughty Nigel 19th September 2019 09:47 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blu-by-u (Post 489882)
These days of digital, I still cannot understand why the need to use analog film.

Why do we still have horses in a world dominated by private motor cars?

If you are talking 35 mm I kind of agree, but medium format opens up a whole new world of creative possibilities and stunning quality beyond what is possible with a DSLR.

Bikie John 19th September 2019 11:38 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Silverprint also have a good range of film and associated stuff, including what they call "alternative processes".

https://www.silverprint.co.uk/

I'm a little bit sad that they have moved. They used to be a short walk from Waterloo station and I often used to pop in for odds and ends if I had to go to That London. Now they are on a trading estate in Poole.

John

Simon Bee 19th September 2019 07:30 PM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blu-by-u (Post 489882)
These days of digital, I still cannot understand why the need to use analog film.

First there is the environmental issue of chemicals used :o then there is the wait for the roll to complete before processing. :eek: After processing there is the requirement of scanning. My question , :eek: will the color rendition be limited to that of the scanner?

My advice to some young photographers who wants to buy a film camera and try shooting film. Just Lock the ISO to the 200, 400 or 800, lock WB Sunlight, turn that AF to single spot, Turn that LCD to inside, Preview to OFF. Don't chimping, single shutter. Then wait after 36 exposures before only looking at then 1 week later. :D

So it's a No for me. No film I enjoy digital and I am not turning back ;)

I had my fair share of finding my shots either totally ruin by over or under exposed, totally blank because the film did not advance, total wash out because I accidentally open the back with it it rewinded, empty roll because I forgot to remove the lens cap. A whole roll all very yellow because I forgot to remove a yellow filter and that is just some of the faults that I can remember.

Hi Henry,
I appreciate and understand your viewpoint, but it's horses for courses IMO. I love my PEN-F and my 'ancient' E-1 however neither 'float my boat' to the same degree as my analog beauties, but that's just me. There are millions of film cameras still in use and many younger photographers are getting a film camera to run alongside their digital counterpart. Film has a different look, neither better or worse ... just different, some like this, some do not.

I sit in front of a computer enough as it is so watching a real wet print appear before my eyes is very therapeutic for me, it's how I started out in photography and likely how I will finish with it too.

The whole point of the post is just to make others aware that actually film production is increasing at quite a staggering rate compared to say a decade ago. There is once again a very wide choice including some unusual and dare I say 'funky' emulsions.

From a purely artistic point I happen to see benefits in both digital and film photography so I have a foot in both camps, others I appreciate will differ.

I know you will think I'm 'crazy' but there is a very good reason for me recently spending £1900 on a 'brand new' Nikon F6. IMO it is the finest camera ever made regardless of format or medium. 15 years after its launch Nikon continues to manufacture the F6, approximately 50 per week are still hand-built no less on a dedicated production line at its Sendai plant. Mine was made just a few months ago, BRAVO Nikon I say.

Kind regards,

Simon

https://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/F6_copy_2.JPG

Simon Bee 19th September 2019 07:42 PM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
And this is the other "beauty" I alluded to in the above post. My M3 is now 58 years old and still capturing 'memories', smooth as silk and Leica will still service it should one be needed. I doubt any digital camera will be doing the same when it is 58 years old and probably neither will my F6 due to likely electronics failure / lack of spares / batteries etc.

The M3 matched with the latest 50mm Summilux Asph makes a formidable outfit.

Kind regards,
Simon

https://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/leica_m3_.png

Ross the fiddler 19th September 2019 11:12 PM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty Nigel (Post 489911)
Why do we still have horses in a world dominated by private motor cars?

If you are talking 35 mm I kind of agree, but medium format opens up a whole new world of creative possibilities and stunning quality beyond what is possible with a DSLR.

Horses for the Amish, of course! ;) :D

blu-by-u 20th September 2019 04:44 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Sorry Simon, I don't and won't end with film. I may have started with it and I appreciate the lessons in basic photography that now transferred to digital. Other than that, I won't be digging up any of those antiques that I have in storage.

Simon Bee 20th September 2019 06:43 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blu-by-u (Post 489977)
Sorry Simon, I don't and won't end with film. I may have started with it and I appreciate the lessons in basic photography that now transferred to digital. Other than that, I won't be digging up any of those antiques that I have in storage.

Henry, I completely understand your rationale. Film photography isn't for everyone, some have never tried and never will while others like yourself have 'moved on' but for anyone wanting to continue to shoot with film or use it for the first time there is once more a plethora of film options available which IMO can only be a good thing. Like most things in life 'choice' is good right?

Kind regards,

Simon

blu-by-u 20th September 2019 06:58 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Agree. But to newbies, who don't even know the basic use of digital, I usually discourage them. BUT if they insist on trying it, I usually loan them a 35mm P&S Those classic yashica with CZ are too ex to loan. :D. So far, all have come back with a thank you, and never to ask again:eek: which suits me fine :D

Having said all that, I think you may have kindled in me to dust off that Contax and put in a row of slide..just for the fun of it.

Jim Ford 20th September 2019 09:04 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blu-by-u (Post 489977)
Sorry Simon, I don't and won't end with film. I may have started with it and I appreciate the lessons in basic photography that now transferred to digital. Other than that, I won't be digging up any of those antiques that I have in storage.

My feeling exactly, Henry!

Jim

Naughty Nigel 20th September 2019 09:12 AM

Re: Want to shoot film but think there's not much choice? ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Bee (Post 489983)
Henry, I completely understand your rationale. Film photography isn't for everyone, some have never tried and never will while others like yourself have 'moved on' but for anyone wanting to continue to shoot with film or use it for the first time there is once more a plethora of film options available which IMO can only be a good thing. Like most things in life 'choice' is good right?

Kind regards,

Simon

Fair competition is usually a good thing, and in this case I believe digital has forced the film manufacturers to up their game considerably compared with some of the crap that we were sold in the 1990's and 2000's.

I have long been a fan of Fuji Velvia but I am increasingly using Kodak Ektar 100 which is a stunning film.


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