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pr1uk 5th February 2011 08:34 AM

E-P1 second try
I had an E-P1 but sold it on within a week for profit but always thought i wish i had tried it more as i loved the build.
Well i just got a secondhand one charged the battery up and first thoughts lovely its silver and the build quality great. Had a friend here with his camera so as he was leaving i formatted a card took 2 shots from my boat with his camera. After he went i put card in the E-P1 and took 2 shots again from same position. I shot both in raw and jpg then i put all the files on my computer opened with the default Apple viewer covered the top so i could not see the file names then sat back and viewed. My mates camera is a Ricoh GX200 my sensor is huge compared so i knew what was going to happen. First i preferred the jpg to raw and two of the shots stood out the sharpness and colour and when cropped the detail oh yes a definite winner. When i had the E-P1 before i took some shots to test the camera in full sun and the results were very good the pancake lens. This E-P1 has the 14mm - 42mm lens and it was late afternoon not dark but getting there. As said there was a winner and it was easy to see one of the cameras stood out. The clear winner of this short test looking at the colour, sharpness and detail was the (disappointed) Ricoh GX200. The little small sensor Ricoh won hands down the E-P1 was reset to factories before the test. My friend is coming over again hopefully sunday and we will do another test again using the same card and try and do identical shots. Oh by the way i had no problem with the focusing its faster then i remembered using firmware 1.4.
Test so far not good for the pen and if the GX beats it that easy on Sunday it will be on sale again Monday. Cant understand how a camera with such a small sensor beat a camera with such a large one.

peak4 5th February 2011 11:56 AM

Re: E-P1 second try
Hello and welcome to one of the friendliest photo forums on the internet; hopefully you will decide to stay around.

I must admit, the GX200 is a cracking little camera. I bought one as a backup camera before we went to Jordan/Syria a couple of years ago. The lens quality is stunning for a zoom point and shoot, and the sensor does show good detail and a pleasing appearance. For reasons beyond my control, it was the only camera I took in the end, (in spite having the E-3 and a 3 lenses packed ready to go.) :mad:

I've only recently picked up the E-P1 myself and not really had chance to have a play with it properly yet. Certainly from my initial impressions, it's capable of outstanding quality itself. I really would give yours a fair crack of the whip and learn how to get the best out of it before sending it off to ebay too rashly. It may be that the Apple software doesn't do it justice at default settings.

The biggest disadvantage to me about the GX200 is the speed which noise increases with raising of ISO. Base ISO is 64, and I found that noise much above 100 started to get objectionable. (Some folks complain about 4/3s sensor noise, just try one of these!) From my perspective, It's a real shame that they didn't keep it down to about 8M Pixels. Also its a fixed zoom lens from 24-72mm EFL in 35mm film terms; quite a narrow range. I knew all this when I bought it and have no regrets in doing so; I love it for a small landscape and general purpose camera. The other thing I like, is the clip on EVF which proved indispensable in bright desert conditions.

The E-P1 is well capable of working at high ISOs and has native lenses available for it from 14-600mm EFL and bright lenses as well; F 0.95 in the case of the Nokton. It's also capable of handling the full range of Olympus 4/3s lenses via an adaptor as well as lots of legacy lenses including tilt/shift.
The Image stabilisation works well enough, though I must admit that the software stab on the GX200 is something to behold. I've regularly got pretty sharp shots at 1/2 second without too much effort.

I'm pleased enough with the sensor an my E-620 and have no reason to think that the E-P1 will be any less capable. I'm still not sure myself how I will get on with the lack of an EVF, but I didn't want to go to great expense buying into MFT with a new E-P2 and then not get along with the concept; I dropped on a used E-P1 at a good price, which I know I can sell it for. Similarly with the 20mm pancake and 14-140mm Panasonic lens. I'm itching to get out for a proper play so I can come to a long term decision myself.

Despite their similarities, they really are quite different beasts, only you can know which is more suited to your purposes, but good luck with your choice.
At the end of the day, the best camera for you, is the one you actually carry when you spot the photo opportunity.

The Jordan, Syria and Bulgarian Flickr galleries in my signature were all taken on the GX200.

pr1uk 5th February 2011 06:09 PM

Re: E-P1 second try
I will try and give the E-P1 a fair trial there as always been talk of a slow auto focus well the camera i have here as no problems even in darker conditions. Love the feel and build its just that when i tested against a camera with a so much smaller sensor i expected to be able to crop deeper. It did surprise me when i took photos on the same card the same time of day at the same subject and both on auto. The GX200 gave better colour better cropping and well won hands down. The E-P1 must be able to complete with a camera with such a small sensor so it must be down to settings. Mind you in fairness if anyone wanted a small well built camera with full control the Ricoh GX200 is fantastic but not cheap.
Will be out every day trying the E-P1 and hopefully i can get the camera set up to give me good shots.

E-P1 fan 5th February 2011 07:07 PM

Re: E-P1 second try
Luckily I don't take pictures for publication so don't need to adhere to the latest strict guidelines and strictures.

As an amateur photographer taking pics for pleasure my E-P1 is perfect. I love it to bits.

As a piece of photographic equipment I think the E-P1 is in a class of its own - but then build quality and good design has always meant more to me than pixel numbers and the like.

Luckily chacun a son gout :)

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